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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2012, 11:23:47 »
On the subject of weight loss, I can't say enough about Weight Watchers.  The program works!  And it's not that difficult.  It just takes a little thought and planning.  No special foods.  No restrictions on the kinds of foods you can eat.  No feeling hungry.  No whacked out regime of any sort.

I know a guy who lost over 50 lbs in six months, while still eating waffles and cheeseburgers (just not in the same sitting).  It's all about making better choices and living healthier.  It's not about deprivation.  Add a good exercise regime that fits conveniently with your lifestyle and the pounds will just fall off.

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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2012, 11:37:03 »
I figured you for a Sweating to the Oldies type of fellow.

No.  I can't say as I see eye to eye with Richard Simmons (he's a lot shorter than I am).  I still have nightmares of a time back in the 80s when the Base Commander in Halifax ordered all personnel to attend weekly aerobics sessions.  The sight of 300 hairybags doing their version of the "20 Minute Workout" on the gym floor at Stad is burned in my memory far too deeply for any amount of therapy to erase.  Thank you for bringing it up.  Now I need to struggle to get back to my happy place.

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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2012, 11:40:45 »
No.  I can't say as I see eye to eye with Richard Simmons (he's a lot shorter than I am).  I still have nightmares of a time back in the 80s when the Base Commander in Halifax ordered all personnel to attend weekly aerobics sessions.  The sight of 300 hairybags doing their version of the "20 Minute Workout" on the gym floor at Stad is burned in my memory far too deeply for any amount of therapy to erase.  Thank you for bringing it up.  Now I need to struggle to get back to my happy place.

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On the subject of weight loss, I can't say enough about Weight Watchers.  The program works!  And it's not that difficult.  It just takes a little thought and planning.  No special foods.  No restrictions on the kinds of foods you can eat.  No feeling hungry.  No whacked out regime of any sort.
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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2012, 11:47:51 »
Gotta love all the weight-loss support in a military forum  :)

Never forget that they say weight loss is 70% diet, 30% exercise.  But no two people are the same; you need to know what kind of diet/plan will work best for your body and your personality.  I spent about 5 years trying to lose a chunk of weight with NO success (and not for lack of effort), then I found the right plan, and the weight melted off (30lbs) fast enough that everyone noticed. Hopefully the Paleo diet works for you, but if it doesn't, don't give up, try something else.

One other point, I was told directly from DRDC Toronto that there is a hard limit on max pilot weight. I don't remember exactly what it was, but I'd say 107kg is pretty close to it.  Hopefully the weight loss will help with the sleep apnea, but either way, I'd keep working hard on getting your BF% down.

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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2012, 12:18:24 »
I know there are other weight-loss threads in here, but I'll just chime in quickly with a recommendation for the Glycemic Index "diet" as one possibility, especially if you have a taste for carbs.  My MO recommended this one to me.  It identifies sugars that are processed too quickly, so you can replace them with better ones.  Also some recipes, snack ideas, etc.  It's been helpful, & easy to incorporate one idea at a time, if you don't need a whole overhaul.   

Alternatively, I recently had strep throat and lost about 8 lbs in 3 days...  not recommended.   

Good luck with the apnea.   :nod:
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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2012, 13:44:52 »
"On the subject of weight loss, I can't say enough about Weight Watchers.  The program works!  And it's not that difficult.  It just takes a little thought and planning.  No special foods.  No restrictions on the kinds of foods you can eat.  No feeling hungry.  No whacked out regime of any sort."


All that says is that I've seen the results of the efforts of "a guy I know."  I admit to nothing else and that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2012, 17:07:33 »
Thanks for the replies and the support guys!

I'm really liking the Paleo diet.  Have cut most of my carbs (not ALL... still allow myself a few treats), but I've found that I'm eating less, but its not impacting my energy levels - Most of what I'm eating is fruit, veg and lean meat.  I find I've been feeling less sluggish, actually. One thing I switched to was grinding up nuts in morning for cereal.  Been eating that with almond milk and honey.  SO GOOD!

Just hurrying and waiting for the day after Labor Day, so I can give my doctor a bit of a nudge to get things rolling.  I'm on mission here! LOL

@ PWN - Well, I'm a good 6-7 pounds below that weight now.  I was at 244 about 3-4 months ago.  Thanks for that info!


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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2012, 17:23:17 »
@ PWN - Well, I'm a good 6-7 pounds below that weight now.  I was at 244 about 3-4 months ago.  Thanks for that info!

Awesome! It's not easy. Congrats and keep it up.

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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2012, 02:34:00 »
I admit to nothing else and that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2012, 21:57:08 »
"On the subject of weight loss, I can't say enough about Weight Watchers.  The program works!  And it's not that difficult.  It just takes a little thought and planning.  No special foods.  No restrictions on the kinds of foods you can eat.  No feeling hungry.  No whacked out regime of any sort."


All that says is that I've seen the results of the efforts of "a guy I know."  I admit to nothing else and that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Having done the program, I can definitely attest to it's success. However, I can also attest to the need to keep at it after reaching your goal.
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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2012, 02:06:18 »
I also did weight watchers as well as support to friend getting married one fall. I loved the point systems and their program guides which make portioning easy to remember and follow- ie a deck of card is a portion of meat, a half a tennis ball is a serving of rice/cereal ect. You could also earn back points with exercise too.  They had a whole food program too that you could eat any amount of certain foods. (i never did this program so i don't really know how it works.) I know when I did a year of nursing, it was one of the support groups we could go to so that we could see what it was like and possibly have as a recommendation for patients/clients ect.

The only thing that I didn't care with Weight Watchers or perhaps it was the group I was in- the group was interested it seemed in food that was low points but it was also full of chemicals and crap to it! I am sorry if you are going to eat ice cream- do a small bowl of it- use your bonus points..don't suffer though crap because you want something low points!

I can't afford it now so I am using a web site called myfitnesspal.com which is similar in tracking food and exercise- your exercise buys back calories. I have so far lost 7 bls on it.  I tried Spark people which is a great site over all but I found it a bit complex for what I needed.  I also use a website for tracking my exercise called fitocracy!

I hope that weight lost/ treatments  helps you or at least buy you time to have a career in the Canadian forces. Good luck!

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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #36 on: August 28, 2012, 13:44:23 »
I can't afford it now so I am using a web site called myfitnesspal.com which is similar in tracking food and exercise- your exercise buys back calories. I have so far lost 7 bls on it.  I tried Spark people which is a great site over all but I found it a bit complex for what I needed.  I also use a website for tracking my exercise called fitocracy!

Thanks for suggesting some low-cost/no-cost options.. that's helpful.   :nod:   I'll be checking those out.   Currently paying $33 every two weeks for a membership to Goodlife that I hardly use... time to make a decision on that. 
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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #37 on: August 28, 2012, 15:23:31 »
I really liked the program (although I agree the cost was a factor in the end), and the online tools were great. The groups were not too bad when I started, as we had a very good leader, but she left and the replacements were just glorified cheerleaders.
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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2012, 19:48:30 »
Hey everyone!  Thanks for all the really positive posts.  Now for one of my own.  Got my sleep study and specialist consult booked!  ;D  Appears that some things went astray during my doctor's move, but I'm happy it hasn't cost THAT much extra time. Doing the sleep test next week on Thursday and seeing the specialist 3 weeks later.  Keep your fingers crossed, and I'll tell more when I know more!
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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2012, 12:37:55 »
Well, I saw the specialist the other day. Will be getting tonsils out and both him and my family doctor would like to see me lose another 20-25 pounds. Once I get the surgery done, I'll get the apnea reevaluated. At most, could be another 6 months... grrrr. But I'm on the cancellation list, so it could happen sooner.  "Hurry up and wait" has become my mantra! Seriously! LOL
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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2012, 14:08:26 »
Well, I saw the specialist the other day. Will be getting tonsils out and both him and my family doctor would like to see me lose another 20-25 pounds. Once I get the surgery done, I'll get the apnea reevaluated. At most, could be another 6 months... grrrr. But I'm on the cancellation list, so it could happen sooner.  "Hurry up and wait" has become my mantra! Seriously! LOL

Progress!  Good.

The other day a friend (35-ish) relayed something their doctor had told them, about being significantly overweight:  "Even if you can't see consequences now, they're coming."   Bit of a knock between the eyes for me as well. 

Anyway, yes, the hurry up & wait... good training in itself.  Good luck with the wait list & weight loss.
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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #41 on: November 17, 2012, 22:58:40 »
Another update, got my surgery booked... for next week! Originally it was supposed to be at the end of January, but a cancellation bumped me up.  Unfortunately, since its close to end of 2012, I was told my file was being closed for now and asked to refile my application next year.  Still with recovery and getting booked for another sleep study, I'm still looking at the start of the new year before the picture is clear for me. However, I will be waiting 2.5 months less. :)  Once I get my second diagnostic sleep study done, I'll let you all know what's what. Cross your fingers for me! :)
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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2012, 09:53:32 »
Got lucky and had my tonsillectomy last week!  ;D My surgeon got a cancellation and they were able to fit me in! Breathing while sleeping seems to feel better already.  Still would like to lose another 20 pounds as well. After that, I want to look into having another sleep study.  I'm hoping this is all going to come together for me in the next few months!
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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2012, 18:08:22 »
Hey OP, I have just submitted my application through DEO plan. Problem is that I have been diagnosed with mild sleep apnea as well although my ENT did not deem using a cpap necessary. Was wondering what kind of sleep apnea you have and if they offered other positions to accommodate you?
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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2012, 20:26:30 »
All applicants have to meet a common enrollment standard. That's what the OP didn't meet - they can't offer him other positions :)

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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2013, 17:32:51 »
James... my understanding (and I could be wrong)  is that if you have diagnosed sleep apnea, you don't meet the medical standard. I have been using CPAP, but I don't think it makes a difference if you do or not.  Best to ask the medical people about it to be sure.
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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2013, 11:28:36 »
Update time!

Had my sleep study last week! Got my test much earlier thanks to a cancellation. If what the nurse said in the morning was any indication, it went well, so I'm hoping the official results are favorable.  :nod: Looks like the tonsillectomy and weight loss were worth it. Will update when I have results.

Have already re-applied and am waiting for North Bay to process and send my stuff back down to the RC.
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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #47 on: June 23, 2013, 18:10:46 »
More updates:

Had the sleep study - my apnea has significantly improved to mild and doesn't require treatment.  Compared to my original diagnosis, its miles improved.  The doctor basically said that improved physical condition will only help things further.  According to medical section they do look at things case by case, and since I have new information, hopefully this will be helpful and get me through medical. Cross your fingers for me on July 3! :)

Even if I still get flagged, I'm glad I've gone through all this, because at the end of the day, it has improved my quality of life tremendously.
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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #48 on: June 23, 2013, 19:22:31 »
Well done, estoguy, well done. What is your weight at now?

I sincerely hope you get the chance to serve, you have already shown more commitment / drive than many, and that's really all we can ask of potential members before they begin.
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Re: Enrollment standard with Sleep Apnea
« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2013, 19:46:41 »
I'm down about 25-30 from last year (245 lbs). Haven't checked recently.

And thanks for the encouragement!  Will certainly keep things updated!  Medical is on July 3.  :nod:
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