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Re: ATIS and posting questions RADAR
« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2009, 07:55:21 »
okay now i am not afraid to travel and awhile keeping my options open.

can an english only profile get posted to bagotville? and how is comox for radar.?

so far i see trenton, greenwood, cold lake applicable for radar.

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Re: ATIS and posting questions RADAR
« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2009, 09:28:02 »

 and how is comox for radar.?


As mentioned to you before, its a fully equiped airfield like Trenton, Cold Lake and Greenwood.

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Re: ATIS and posting questions RADAR
« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2009, 12:19:13 »
my bad i missed that one.

so i am thinking for a posting pref trenton, cold lake, comox for radar. 

why the interest? well on science shows you always see the time laps view of the very large arrays for radio astronomy where the units turn in unision and i want to know how they work.  When joining i was looking at the aircraft controller tech position which looked cool but i thought "step back", become a real tech and learn how these systems REALLY work. 

sounds a little silly but i know what i like. 

plus when you can say, yah, i am a RADAR tech.  people know ur the sheet. 

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Re: ATIS and posting questions RADAR
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2009, 12:31:49 »
...as long as you realize you may have to wait awhile to get into the 'RADAR' shop.  You could spend a year imaging PCs or in COMSEC...no guaruntees where the TIS SCWO will put his/her newbies after they do their OJT rotation.  Just keep that in the back of your head.   ;D
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Re: ATIS and posting questions RADAR
« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2009, 14:59:09 »
Occam:  what's radar about an ILS?!

They do have 2 ILS in YMJ, on each end of the inner runway.  I think they are maintained (like all airfield equipment in Moose Jaw) by a contractor.

ILS, TACAN, and radars are all maintained by the Navaids shop, colloquially referred to as the Radar shop.  Like the SSR, there's nothing "radar" about ILS, but it's just lumped in with the other navigational aids.

Thanks for the info about YMJ - I seemed to recall one of the smaller airfields out west being maintained by Serco, but I wasn't sure if it was YMJ.  Goose Bay airfield technical services are provided by Serco as well.

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Re: ATIS and posting questions RADAR
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2009, 15:25:44 »
why the interest? well on science shows you always see the time laps view of the very large arrays for radio astronomy where the units turn in unision and i want to know how they work.  When joining i was looking at the aircraft controller tech position which looked cool but i thought "step back", become a real tech and learn how these systems REALLY work. 

sounds a little silly but i know what i like. 

plus when you can say, yah, i am a RADAR tech.  people know ur the sheet. 

If you've done POET, you've probably already seen the principles behind getting a bunch of antennae to rotate in unison and point in the same direction in space - it's called a simple synchro/servo system.  No black magic involved there.

The radars used by the Canadian Air Force are relatively simple on the grand scheme of things.  The technology used in them is essentially the same technology that was used 30-40 years ago.  Down the road, if you get an opportunity to work on an E-3, they have a phased array radar that uses the same principles as the radar used in the Aegis system aboard some US Navy ships, and PAVE PAWS radars used for space surveillance and missile warning.  They're new technology. 

If you want bleeding edge stuff, Google the DRDC webpage for High Frequency Surface Wave Radar. 

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Re: ATIS and posting questions RADAR
« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2009, 18:08:40 »


plus when you can say, yah, i am a RADAR tech.  people know ur the sheet. 

You know it dog, thats the shiznit alright...word up yo !

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Re: ATIS and posting questions RADAR
« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2009, 18:16:06 »
You know it dog, thats the shiznit alright...word up yo !

 :rofl:

That is definitely not what I was expecting....thanks for the laugh.

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Re: ATIS and posting questions RADAR
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2009, 18:45:38 »
Thanks for the info about YMJ - I seemed to recall one of the smaller airfields out west being maintained by Serco, but I wasn't sure if it was YMJ.  Goose Bay airfield technical services are provided by Serco as well.

You're probably thinking of YPG.  I know for sure YPG's contracted, however I'm unsure about Moose Jaw.

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Re: ATIS and posting questions RADAR
« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2009, 18:52:44 »
You know it dog, thats the shiznit alright...word up yo !

LMAO

Umm yeah....I don't remember hearing the guys at NavAids in YAW saying "we're the crap man...last night, there were 20 babes knockin' on my door cause I am a QUAD God"...

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Re: ATIS and posting questions RADAR
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2009, 10:09:18 »

lol you guys are hilarous.

i do expect my on the job experience to take a year and a half and from the personal experience of a mate out in cold lake a year as they want to push him through so they can use him. 

my QL3 is the new tp and i understand however not comfirmed that we are getting new radar to replace the quad in kingston from trenton

a lot of jargon was spoken in the past ten posts so ill inquire on them.

what is YMJ, what is Sero? E-3?  ill google the frig out of the rest. 

thanks for the information all.

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Re: ATIS and posting questions RADAR
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2009, 11:31:28 »


what is YMJ,

CYMJ is the 4-letter ICAO identifier for Moose Jaw, Sask.

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what is Sero?

Civillian company.

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E-3? 

E-3 Sentry. It is an Airborne Warning and Control Aircraft.

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Re: ATIS and posting questions RADAR
« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2009, 15:42:40 »
okay cool. 

now i hear that the only way to rotate into E3 sentries is going to cold lake, and then i understand that they may send us down to the states to go on our E3 atis qualification.   can anyone add to this?

so far i am putting in trenton (8accs), comox, cold lake in that order.  in terms of deployments or just traveling somewhere regardless if its sandy, cold, hot, wet; other than 8accs and JSR what else is there that a Jr.  ATIS can look at?  a lot of people on my course have family in trenton and i understand that trumps any marks or PT levels that one can exhibit. so at this point in time trenton looks like a no go.  (i rephrase an old question to ensure i get the right posting.)

also i understand cold lake has their own radar sqn, can anyone talk about or even speculate on the nature of the job?

thanks again all

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Re: ATIS and posting questions RADAR
« Reply #38 on: February 22, 2009, 16:29:00 »
I don't think 42 Radar does much to be honest.  Whenever we have intercepts that require GCI, we deal with North Bay. 

Bagtown has their own radar squadron as well.

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Re: ATIS and posting questions RADAR
« Reply #39 on: February 22, 2009, 22:23:28 »
that they may send us down to the states to go on our E3 atis qualification. 

You go to the US for training only if posted to the AWACS at Tnker AFB or Elmendorf AFB. If posted to NATO AWACS, you go to GK in Germany. As a brand new tech, you are not going to any of these places.

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i understand that trumps any marks or PT levels that one can exhibit.

It does not.

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Re: ATIS and posting questions RADAR
« Reply #40 on: February 24, 2009, 15:01:03 »

hmm okay and i understand as a jr tech i wont just be thrown into the world ATIS at a million km per hour.

what would be a good posting that would put my career in the direction of AWACS. 

also another interesting possability the the PAVE PAWS super duper heavy intercontinential space ballistic missle defence stations.  what first posting would gear me towards this? 

i understand if we go airfield radar, wingtis will hold onto you for dear life as soon as you are qualified becuase our trade is undermanned. my question, what are the chances my next unit will lock me in and ill be unable to explore other careers in radar?

and concerning deployments, anyone know of other highly operational units other than JSR, and 8accs?

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ATIS: Best Base to Train Widest Possible Range of Skills QL3 - QL5
« Reply #41 on: January 12, 2016, 01:27:18 »
From my understanding, after an ATIS tech is QL3 qualified, they get to request three locations for their first posting while doing their QL4 and OJT (I understand that these requests are not guaranteed by any means). When requesting your first posting, what would be suggested for `base(s) with the the greatest opportunities to train in the widest possible array of ATIS related skills`. My goal would be to effectively learn as much as possible about as many facets of ATIS as possible (ATIS is a huge draw for me because of its seemingly large breadth of diverse technical trades). I am suspecting the larger bases with air fields are the best candidates, but I am simply an applicant at the moment, so really do not know. (Yes, I know I am jumping the gun here as an applicant, but I just got merit listed and I heard that ATIS is the only trade I applied to that still has space in it this fiscal year so I am fishing for more info on ATIS at the moment just in case I get an offer)

On a related note, what are the most likely postings? (I am guessing that a request to go to a base with a higher demand for ATIS techs is more likely to be granted)

I am not at all too picky about where I would be in Canada, as long as it is somewhere close to a decent school for my children (which most places are).
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Re: ATIS: Best Base to Train Widest Possible Range of Skills QL3 - QL5
« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2016, 01:47:13 »
My quick  :2c: would be to a Wing that has an airfield.  That would allow you to see/do all facets (or most) of the trade and get you thru the OJTP (which was the QL4 the last I knew).  Things may have changed.

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Re: ATIS: Best Base to Train Widest Possible Range of Skills QL3 - QL5
« Reply #43 on: January 12, 2016, 09:33:42 »
Or a base that has a Tac Hel Squadron.

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Re: ATIS: Best Base to Train Widest Possible Range of Skills QL3 - QL5
« Reply #44 on: January 12, 2016, 09:41:16 »
I am not at all too picky about where I would be in Canada, as long as it is somewhere close to a decent school for my children (which most places are).

ATIS favorite postings?? 
Where would be better for family life in the trade? where would i enjoy going to work more? or where to avoid?

Air force ATIS tech 
I would recommend that you choose a large base for your first posting so that you could get the opportunity to see the ATIS trade in various fields of work. For Example, in Halifax they work at the Air Force base in Shearwater, a Radio transmitter and receiver site, in all aspects of the IT/IM world, Network Services, Telephony and also in Infrastructure and Cabling.

You may not be able to experience that on a smaller base. I worked with a large group of ATIS techs in Shearwater and it really seems to be a great choice for a trade.

As an ATIS tech posted to a deployable unit, the member would receive annual weapons training, NBCD (nuclear, biological, chemical protection training), and combat skills as well as other non-MOC related courses.  With this training, an ATIS tech could be deployed with the unit or individually anywhere and have the skills to be useful in an Army, Navy, or Air Force environment.

If one becomes a 500 series aircraft technician like for the CF-18, the
posting possibilites are limited because only Cold Lake and Bagotville base CF-18s as an example.


ATIS and posting questions
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=83532.0
"Well i am obviously an ATIS tech, done my POET training and soon i embark on my QL3s!  that means i must determine what my three posting preferences are."

ATIS Tech Training Plan: Apprentice and Journeyman 
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,78548.0.html

Starting a Career as an ATIS Tech
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=101314.0

ATIS TECH Postings After BOQ in Kingston.
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=81071.0

ATIS bases and postings
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Aarmy.ca+ATIS+base&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=1BaVVu_AJKqC8QeHsK_IDg&gws_rd=ssl#q=site:army.ca+ATIS+

etc...
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Re: ATIS: Best Base to Train Widest Possible Range of Skills QL3 - QL5
« Reply #45 on: January 12, 2016, 23:19:35 »
Or a base that has a Tac Hel Squadron.

Ughhh...a THS pretty much ensures an ATIS Tech can go on hold for postings/promotions for a few years.  Nice if you want the location they're in to the exclusion of everything else, but they have almost none of the same equipment you'd find at any of the major bases.  A THS is definitely not the environment for an apprentice ATIS Tech; and I'm pretty sure it's only offered to Cpls and above.