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Re: Medical Officer Training Plan (MOTP) [MERGED]
« Reply #50 on: July 22, 2014, 16:38:41 »
I've been looking into this, and I am going to talk to someone at my personnel selection office about it. But I was wondering if there is currently a path that an NCM could take that would provide the required training to go from an NCM to a Medical officer.. I am aware of the UTPNCM, CEOTP, and CFR programmes. None of those seem to be an option for someone wishing to become a medical officer. I suspect that it is because of the many years of schooling it takes to become a doctor. Outside of putting in a release and going back to school for a few years then re-applying through the MOTP I don't see a way to do it.. So there it is that is my question.

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Re: Medical Officer Training Plan (MOTP) [MERGED]
« Reply #51 on: July 22, 2014, 16:49:54 »
If you already have a degree or are working on one, you can try to apply through the MMTP - there is a special comminssioning pathway that is sometimes opened up so that qualified NCO's can apply.  Another option is, if you're a Med Tech, get your PA training, do your obligatory service and then try through the MMTP program - I've known a couple of people that actually had that dangled in front of them.  Otherwise, I'd say you could do UTPNCM, get your commission, do your oblig time and go MMTP or get out, go back to school and go MOTP as mentioned.

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Re: Medical Officer Training Plan (MOTP) [MERGED]
« Reply #52 on: July 22, 2014, 21:44:21 »
Keep in mind that the CAF does not have any dedicated seats in med schools for military members.

So, the key to any military medical training program will be your ability to get accepted into a Canadian medical program based on your merits (academic, social, experiential, etc).  All that to say you will likely need an undergraduate degree before bring considered for admission to a med training program. 

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MOTP - Medical Officer Training Plan
« Reply #53 on: July 30, 2015, 00:28:00 »
Hi, I'm 14 and I was just wondering if I could have some clarification on the Medical Officer Training Plan. I have done a lot of research on the forces.ca site but I can't seem to find enough information. First of all, I was wondering if the Forces pay for your undergraduate degree too, or just your medical degree. I was also wondering about the specifics and details on specializing in psychiatry or other medical specializations. I also read that you could go to any university and that it didn't have to be Canadian. Is that true? And would the forces still pay for your medical degree there? Even as a medical officer, do you still have to take the basic officer training course with guns and camouflage and all that? Does that mean that even as a medical officer, you still will be fighting in the front lines in Afghanistan? My last question is what undergraduate course or courses are prerequisites for the MOTP?

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MOTP - Medical Officer Training Plan
« Reply #54 on: July 30, 2015, 00:47:01 »
Hi, I'm 14 and I was wondering if there is anyone that has successfully done or that has applied to the Medical Officer Training Plan. If possible, I'd like to know the full details. Also, I'm specifically looking for someone in the field of psychiatry...

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Re: MOTP - Medical Officer Training Plan
« Reply #55 on: July 30, 2015, 08:29:09 »
Good day clueless_stranger,

Questions on the Medical Officer training plan have been asked and answered in depth on this form. You can conduct more research on this site for more detailed answers as i will be brief in mine.

Medical Officer Training Plan (MOTP) the minimum requirements for applicants is to already have an undergraduate degree completed (Not Paid for by the CAF under a paid education plan) and have gained admission into a recognized Canadian university medical program. All CAF paid education programs are for Canadian Colleges and Universities only.

All officers take BMOQ before moving onto trade specific training, this does not mean that they will be in the front lines of the battlefield in the event that they are deployed overseas on operation or humanitarian assistance with the DART team. We are no longer in Afghanistan for current operations visit the following link: http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/operations/current-list.page#tab-1424977816603-5

There is information on our recruiting website on the medical related occupations, I have provided the links to the occupations below.

Bio Science Officer:  http://www.forces.ca/en/job/bioscienceofficer-51

Dental Officer: http://www.forces.ca/en/job/dentalofficer-45

Medical Officer: http://www.forces.ca/en/job/medicalofficer-50

Nursing Officer: http://www.forces.ca/en/job/nursingofficer-53

Pharmacy Officer: http://www.forces.ca/en/job/pharmacyofficer-48

Physiotherapy Officer http://www.forces.ca/en/job/physiotherapyofficer-44

Social Work Officer: http://www.forces.ca/en/job/socialworkofficer-54

For undergraduate degrees meeting the requirements for acceptance into an approved Canadian Medical school I suggest that you conduct a search of the Canadian Medical schools to find the information pertaining to their requirements for admission.

I have briefly answered your questions, more information can be fond by conducting a better search of this site. 
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Re: MOTP - Medical Officer Training Plan
« Reply #56 on: July 30, 2015, 08:49:24 »
Hi, I'm 14 and I was wondering if there is anyone that has successfully done or that has applied to the Medical Officer Training Plan. If possible, I'd like to know the full details.

MOTP discussions you may find of interest,
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Aarmy.ca+army+versus+navy&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=dRu6VYfzDqSC8QftzJuYBw&gws_rd=ssl#q=site:army.ca+motp&start=0

I was also wondering about the specifics and details on specializing in psychiatry or other medical specializations.

 Medical officer specializations for advancement.
http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,103150.0/nowap.html




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Re: MOTP - Medical Officer Training Plan
« Reply #57 on: July 30, 2015, 14:02:10 »
Clueless-stranger,

You are 14 years old. First, finish high school near the top of you class. After that, complete a university degree near the top of your class. Finally, apply to a Canadian medical school and get accepted. ONLY THEN think about MOTP.

You have approx 8 more years of academic challenges ahead. Good luck.

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Re: Medical Officer Training Plan (MOTP) [MERGED]
« Reply #58 on: October 12, 2017, 01:09:55 »
Is there a path for officers (I have noted the ones I would like to apply to) who are currently serving to become a medical officer. For example, after 2 years into full time service, I would like to apply to medical school in Canada. Through my own academic merits (GPA, MCAT, extracurriculars) I am accepted, would the CAF then allow me to pursue medical school if I want to become a medical officer? Or would I have to finish my obligatory service and then apply, become accepted, and reapply for the medical officer position.

Also more specifically, would commanding officers not give reference letters, etc. if I asked for it since the application process at many schools requires it?
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Re: Medical Officer Training Plan (MOTP) [MERGED]
« Reply #59 on: October 12, 2017, 20:52:27 »
What trade are you currently? Are you at OFP?

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Re: Medical Officer Training Plan (MOTP) [MERGED]
« Reply #60 on: October 12, 2017, 20:57:59 »
What trade are you currently?

I will be applying to Aerospace Control Officer occupation as a direct entry applicant

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MOTP summers
« Reply #61 on: January 16, 2018, 21:59:35 »
Greetings!

I am brand new to this forum and could use help from current and past MOTP officers.

My question is regarding the summers during MOTP. The CAF website says med students enrolled in MOTP must work during the summers shadowing a CAF medical officer. However, there are no CAF medical officers in the province where I live.

Does that mean I would be "deployed" during the summer to work at a CAF clinic??

If so, I will have to stay away from my family (wife and 1 year old child) and will have to pay rent during the summer. This is not only a financial burden but it also means I won't have family time at all during the 6 years of medical school.

Could anyone shed some light into this darkness for me?

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Re: Medical Officer Training Plan (MOTP) [MERGED]
« Reply #62 on: January 16, 2018, 23:59:04 »
 If you're worried about being away from your family for a few months every summer, how are you going to tolerate 6-9 month deployments overseas once you're fully trained?

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Re: MOTP summers
« Reply #63 on: March 10, 2018, 20:48:18 »
Greetings!
However, there are no CAF medical officers in the province where I live.

How are there no MOs in the province where you live? There are MOs in every province. Maybe not at every base, but definitely in every province.

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Re: MOTP summers
« Reply #64 on: March 10, 2018, 22:06:39 »
. . .  There are MOs in every province. Maybe not at every base, but definitely in every province.

Maybe he lives in Prince Edward Island?  Since I would assume that Medical Officers (Reg Force ones that he could shadow in a military practise, anyway) would be located where there are CF medical and dental centres and detachments, if there are no CF Health Services facilities listed for a particular province then the likelihood of an MO being there is low.

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Re: MOTP summers
« Reply #65 on: March 11, 2018, 09:31:17 »
My question is regarding the summers during MOTP. The CAF website says med students enrolled in MOTP must work during the summers shadowing a CAF medical officer. However, there are no CAF medical officers in the province where I live.

Does that mean I would be "deployed" during the summer to work at a CAF clinic??

If so, I will have to stay away from my family (wife and 1 year old child) and will have to pay rent during the summer. This is not only a financial burden but it also means I won't have family time at all during the 6 years of medical school.
In some medical school programs, the only summers off are between first and second year, and second and third year. During your two year residency training there are no summers off.

So, for two summers you could work at a CF clinic. This should be at no cost to you, as typically your lodgings and meals would be covered. Typically, this should also be the province where you are attending medical school, and maybe even the city (e.g. Halifax, Toronto, Ottawa, Edmonton, etc).

Maybe one of the medical recruiters here can comment on the specifics of summer employment during the MOTP program, though, and confirm the details.

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Re: Medical Officer Training Plan (MOTP) [MERGED]
« Reply #66 on: May 03, 2018, 23:15:42 »
Didn't realize there was an MOTP thread within the RMC, ROTP board.

While in Medical School (years 1-4) typically BMOQ and HSO SOC are completed; sometimes some OJT opportunities are there.  Once residency starts it's no longer on a 1-Sep to 30-April time frame as most residencies start in July.  So in year 4 of Med School there's only 2 months between school and residency and during that time there are exams to be completed.

Being that this is after the recruitment process it's really outside the perview of a Recruiter what someone would do, but being that I'm heavily involved with the MOTP Surge 2018 campaign I will have a look at all my documents on Monday and provide an non-official informed response.