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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #725 on: February 28, 2017, 14:13:28 »
Pete is a political dynasty, he will not chance a loss, he will be back when winning is a sure thing.

Yep! You should erect something for that dynasty ... I don't know ... a bridge or something.  ;D

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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #726 on: February 28, 2017, 14:48:04 »
Some folks refuse to believe their horse is dead until it thunders in to the dirt. They just keep on flogging it and doubling down.

I'm not going to sugar coat it.  It was downright creepy. 
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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #727 on: February 28, 2017, 17:01:14 »
I'm not going to sugar coat it.  It was downright creepy.
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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #728 on: February 28, 2017, 17:14:02 »
Ok, Ok, Ok.  I am less than impressed with Mr. O'Leary ducking in and out of the proceedings like a dog at the fair as it suits him.  You're either in and serious or you're not.  Back to being in limbo for me then. :gloomy:

I agree. He's trying to appear like a Rockstar who's above everyone else. He doesn't think anyone on this forum should own AR15s, he can **** right off.

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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #729 on: February 28, 2017, 17:16:48 »
Sooooo....


Anybody else see Kellie Leitch's video...

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Link?

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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #730 on: February 28, 2017, 17:45:20 »
I'm not going to sugar coat it.  It was downright creepy.

lol..woah...that was really weird and...amatuer

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/02/27/kellie-leitch-video_n_15051746.html


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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #731 on: March 06, 2017, 12:09:57 »
Wow!

I was reading the backgrounder on her video producer...


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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #732 on: March 06, 2017, 12:54:48 »
You read with your mouth?   :whiteflag:

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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #733 on: March 06, 2017, 13:30:14 »
Wow!

I was reading the backgrounder on her video producer...


And you're being WAY too kind here, bud.

Agree or disagree with the content, this is one @#$%^&*('ed up video.
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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #734 on: March 07, 2017, 12:55:29 »
You read with your mouth?   :whiteflag:

LOL, I should have been more clear, JJT...I saw video commentary of her producer going over her script before shooting the video.  ;D

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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #735 on: March 07, 2017, 12:58:09 »
LOL, I should have been more clear, JJT...I saw video commentary of her producer going over her script before shooting the video.  ;D

I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist.  Just like with chips as anyone who knows me (and my waistline) can attest.

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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #736 on: March 07, 2017, 14:13:42 »
I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist.  Just like with chips as anyone who knows me (and my waistline) can attest.

It's all good... ;) ..except her video, of course...it's still just plain disturbing and weird.  :-\

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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #737 on: March 07, 2017, 14:14:51 »
Her whole campaign slant is disturbing and weird.

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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #738 on: March 07, 2017, 14:18:44 »
It's all good... ;) ..except her video, of course...it's still just plain disturbing and weird.  :-\

Poor production, wooden acting and bad video I'll grant. But disturbing and weird? I don't see it like that. She hit her platform pretty square and honest and people that vote for her know what they are getting.

Unlike the current liebrals that have not, satisfactorily, answered a single question in the House, since they've been elected.
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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #739 on: March 07, 2017, 14:28:23 »
Poor production, wooden acting and bad video I'll grant. But disturbing and weird? I don't see it like that. She hit her platform pretty square and honest and people that vote for her know what they are getting.

Unlike the current liebrals that have not, satisfactorily, answered a single question in the House, since they've been elected.

RG, I'm still talking delivery.  I will absolutely grant you that she hits the target for a few people.  In seriousness, I do look at a person's 'body of work' for trend analysis, and Dr. Leitch does not impress me either with her record as an MP, nor with her more recent pseudo-pandering.  The Cons need to do some soul searching to keep fragmentation to a minimum.

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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #740 on: March 07, 2017, 14:43:26 »
The Cons need to do some soul searching to keep fragmentation to a minimum.

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Indeed.

I repeat, the CPC is not going to pay much attention to (many of) the folks on this forum as we're known to be just a tad bit Conservative leaning already. They should be after those in their base who ****ed off because the bullshit was getting piled too high, the guys who might toss another one towards the hairdo just because of the crap show that their leadership race/candidates have/may have been. That's a few of us, I'd hazard a guess. That's me at this current state.

See, when I listen to Dr. Leitch or Kevin O'Leary, all I circle back to hearing is this:



Hell, that's all I hear when some folks get to prattling on and on about how horrible the hairdo is.
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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #741 on: March 07, 2017, 16:24:54 »
RG, I'm still talking delivery.  I will absolutely grant you that she hits the target for a few people.  In seriousness, I do look at a person's 'body of work' for trend analysis, and Dr. Leitch does not impress me either with her record as an MP, nor with her more recent pseudo-pandering.  The Cons need to do some soul searching to keep fragmentation to a minimum.

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No, no. It's ok. I wasn't shilling for her. I just said her message was on point, for her supporters, even if nothing else in the production, was.

She's not my pick anyway.
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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #742 on: March 08, 2017, 10:19:35 »
She's a one issue candidate.  And it isn't even a good issue either. 
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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #743 on: March 22, 2017, 15:33:59 »
I am leaning towards Maxime Bernier at this point.

I like the idea of somebody who will effectively savage the Sun King, but Mr O'Leary seemed to be a one-issue guy and said some stupid things about the Armed Forces and firearms - my two main interests.

However:

https://thegunblog.ca/2017/03/18/kevin-oleary-changed-his-opinion-of-ar-15-rifle-cssa-reports/

Kevin O’Leary Changed His Opinion of AR-15, CSSA Reports
 
Kevin O’Leary changed his opinion of the AR-15 after having angered many shooters last year when he said that automatic versions of the popular rifle were used only to kill and should be banned.

O’Leary, one of the leading candidates running to head the Conservative Party of Canada, also said he would repeal the unjust and convoluted Firearms Act if he won the party vote and were then elected prime minister, the Canadian Shooting Sports Association said today in a newsletter. He joins at least three other candidates in pledging to scrap the flawed law.

I’m happy to see the change in words and thrilled that the CSSA is so effective at educating and converting people. I’m also continuing to support a different candidate.

Here’s part of what the Canadian Shooting Sports Association said (bold in original):

Mr. O’Leary said he had tried to read the Act. “It is 144 pages of incomprehensible gibberish” he stated. “If I am elected, I will repeal the entire Firearms Act and replace it with sensible laws Canadians can understand.”

Mr. O’Leary admitted he had made some erroneous comments regarding AR15s but has since changed his position on these firearms. “The AR15 is just a rifle, one of the most common hunting firearms in the world. The unjust restrictions on these ordinary firearms will be changed to permit them to be used for hunting,” said O’Leary.

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I am impressed that he actually read the Firearms Act - few politicians, and even few firearms owners, have done that - and saw it for what it is. That puts him up a lot in my view, and I do not see his winning as a bad thing.

Playing nice has not got us very far in the twenty-two years since that miserable Act was passed.

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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #744 on: March 27, 2017, 10:42:18 »
As more and more people realize that the Conservatives and New Democrats are not the only leaderless parties:

http://poll.forumresearch.com/post/2695/conservatives-inch-ahead/

Conservatives Inch Ahead Conservative Majority , March 24th

In a random sampling of public opinion taken by The Forum Poll™ amongst
1029 Canadian voters, the Conservatives have closed the gap, and are now
just ahead of the Liberals by two points.

Amongst decided and leaning voters, Liberal support has decreased by three
points, from 39% on February 26th to 36% now. Conservative are up three
points, from 35% on February 26th to 38% now.

It is worth noting that September 2015 was the last time we recorded a
Conservative lead over the Liberals (September 29, 2015: 34%, and 27%
respectively). New Democrat and Green support has remained steady at 15%
and 4% respectively (February 26th: NDP 15%, Green Party 4%), while the BQ
see a one point decrease to 6% (February 26th: 7%).

In British Columbia the Liberals (35%) are well  ahead of the
Conservatives (29%), who themselves are statistically tied with the New
Democrats (28%).

In the Atlantic region, the Liberals (48%) have seen a decrease in
support, losing eleven points (February 26th: 59%).  The Conservatives
(32%) are up two points (February 26th: 30%). In Québec, both the Liberals
(40%) and Conservatives (20%) are slightly up since February (February
26th: 38%,
and 17% respectively).

The BQ (22%) is down five points (February 26th: 27%). In Ontario, the
Liberals (38%) fall behind the Conservatives (45%) by seven points
(February 26th: 42%, and 39% respectively). The NDP (12%) is down four
points February 26th: 16%). In the prairies, the Conservatives (48%) are
up six points, while the Liberals (19%) are down by ten (February 26th:
42%, and 29% respectively). The NDP (20%) is down by five points (February
26th: 25%).

Conservative Majority Seen If an election were held today, the
Conservatives would win 170 seats, the Liberals 128, the NDP 26, the BQ
13, and 1 for the Green.

“Canadians are not happy with the Liberal budget. The budget is so
unpopular in fact, that we're seeing the leaderless Conservatives gain an
edge in popularity for the first time since 2015,” said Dr. Lorne
Bozinoff, President of Forum Research. Lorne Bozinoff, Ph.D. is the
president and founder of Forum Research.

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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #745 on: March 27, 2017, 11:09:44 »
I would hazard a guess that the majority of the Ontario increase is due to the continuing popularity of the provincial liberal party as opposed to any real animosity towards the federal branch.  It is the liberal name rather than any serious protest against the feds.


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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #747 on: March 28, 2017, 13:53:37 »
Some of you will be thrilled to know that I plunked down my money for a CPC membership.
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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #748 on: March 28, 2017, 14:40:26 »
Some of you will be thrilled to know that I plunked down my money for a CPC membership.
It's not too late to put your name in for the Leadership!  PLEASE!!   :nod:
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Re: The Next Conservative Leader
« Reply #749 on: March 28, 2017, 14:45:22 »
It's not too late to put your name in for the Leadership!  PLEASE!!   :nod:

If some of the folks here aren't thrilled to be brother and sister Conservatives with me, I can only imagine the howling from certain corners if I ever went that far.

frig, you might be on to something!  >:D
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