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Re: Posting Policy-Out of Canada (OUTCAN) [MERGED]
« Reply #225 on: April 24, 2017, 11:42:35 »
In general, you're going to have to be married to accompany a service member on an OUTCAN posting, otherwise you run into all kinds of residency, healthcare, visa issues, etc. Plus, part of the OUTCAN screening is an interview where they talk about family situation -- if his paperwork says he has a child but no spouse then the first question is "what is your child care plan when you're in Europe?"

Culture varies widely -- living in the UK is very different from living in Romania. There are many posting locations, all with their own differences.

The government of Canada has a moving contract -- they book your movers and pay for them, you don't choose the company.

You don't necessarily need to be married to accompany your common-law spouse on an OUTCAN posting.  The CAF doesn't really care.  HOWEVER, the host country might.  If they don't recognize common-law relationships, then you could be denied any spousal benefits offered to visiting forces, INCLUDING any required visas (which could effectively kill your chances of joining him overseas.  Rather than trying to fight this, it would be a lot simpler for all concerned if you simply got married before the COS date.

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Re: Posting Policy-Out of Canada (OUTCAN) [MERGED]
« Reply #226 on: April 24, 2017, 12:14:38 »
I'll offer something here, even though I'm 99.9% sure that tinar is just a spammer.  No, you cannot chose your moving company when the CF is footing the bill.
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Re: Posting Policy-Out of Canada (OUTCAN) [MERGED]
« Reply #227 on: April 25, 2017, 05:07:42 »
In general, you're going to have to be married to accompany a service member on an OUTCAN posting, otherwise you run into all kinds of residency, healthcare, visa issues, etc. Plus, part of the OUTCAN screening is an interview where they talk about family situation -- if his paperwork says he has a child but no spouse then the first question is "what is your child care plan when you're in Europe?"

Culture varies widely -- living in the UK is very different from living in Romania. There are many posting locations, all with their own differences.

The government of Canada has a moving contract -- they book your movers and pay for them, you don't choose the company.
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Re: Posting Policy-Out of Canada (OUTCAN) [MERGED]
« Reply #228 on: June 23, 2017, 23:47:38 »
What are the remaining countries where someone could still get outcan? US NORAD and Germany? Anything else out there?

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Re: Posting Policy-Out of Canada (OUTCAN) [MERGED]
« Reply #229 on: June 23, 2017, 23:55:58 »
There are attaché positions in a variety of nations; exchange positions with some foreign militaries; MPs and clerks in a number of embassies...

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Re: Posting Policy-Out of Canada (OUTCAN) [MERGED]
« Reply #230 on: June 24, 2017, 04:51:48 »
There are attaché positions in a variety of nations; exchange positions with some foreign militaries; MPs and clerks in a number of embassies...

Any place to get a list?

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Re: Posting Policy-Out of Canada (OUTCAN) [MERGED]
« Reply #231 on: June 24, 2017, 09:15:41 »
There are attaché positions in a variety of nations; exchange positions with some foreign militaries; MPs and clerks in a number of embassies...

This may be of interest...

Forces.ca
Reserve Force Foreign Service Arrangements (RFFSA)
http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/caf-community-support-services-for-members-reservists/foreign-service-agreements.page

Milnet.ca
Reserve Forces Foreign Service Arrangements ( RFFSA )
http://forums.milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,58217.0.html
4 pages.

Foreign Exchange programs?? 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,101486.25.html
2 pages.

Navy.ca
REGULUS program keeps sailors’ skills sharp
http://www.navy-marine.forces.gc.ca/en/news-operations/news-view.page?doc=regulus-program-keeps-sailors-skills-sharp/i3yaqqud

Embassy Question 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=57947.0

OJT at an embassy?
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=79325.0

Working In an Embassey, and everything else!
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=33093.0

Military Attaches 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,28202.0/nowap.html

Air Force Pilot Exchange 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,52181.0/nowap.html

Foreign Postings 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=71069.0

Officer exchange
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=20557.0

Canadian / Australian Personnel Exchange Program?? 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=28930.0

Deploying with other countries?
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=23262.0

Canadian Exchange Officers Question 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=96122.0

China Exchange?
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=17407.0

Naval Exchanges?
https://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,122454.0/nowap.html

etc...





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Re: Posting Policy-Out of Canada (OUTCAN) [MERGED]
« Reply #232 on: June 24, 2017, 09:35:36 »
Any place to get a list?

Next time you're on EMAA, you can look up postings and see what's specific to your trade.
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Re: Posting Policy-Out of Canada (OUTCAN) [MERGED]
« Reply #233 on: June 27, 2017, 09:51:12 »
Any place to get a list?

Your career manager will have the most up to date list as well as a forecast on when each position is expected to become available.  In the Log Branch, they send out a list to everyone every autumn for positions opening in the upcoming APS.
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Re: Posting Policy-Out of Canada (OUTCAN) [MERGED]
« Reply #234 on: June 27, 2017, 10:15:59 »
Really? Never saw that list....probably because the Log Branch forgets that clerks are part of the branch until they want something from us.

Although it is technically true that you don't get to select your movers if you are nice to the staff in the move section and indicate a preference for company we have contracted they may be able to influence it some. Nothing major, just a matter of knowing when that company is due to come up in the selection and entering your move at the right time. Of course if no one else is moving at your location then you spin the wheel and hope for the best.
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Re: Posting Policy-Out of Canada (OUTCAN) [MERGED]
« Reply #235 on: June 28, 2017, 08:46:34 »
Really? Never saw that list....probably because the Log Branch forgets that clerks are part of the branch until they want something from us.

Advise the Logistics Branch Secretariat that you're not getting the emails.  The officer one came out last August so I would expect yours would be in approximately the same timeline.  I'm pretty sure there's a fair number of clerk positions internationally. There's a bunch in Washington alone.

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