Originally posted by rifle_team_captain_13:
[qb]A military chapel is there for the soldiers of what ever faith the chapel is. If the two men want to renew their vows there, it would be against the religious morals of the other soldiers who worship at that chapel. [/qb]
"Religious morals" isn‘t that an oxymoron?
People choose to participate in a religion.
People do not choose to be gay.
Therefore the one that has choice is the one who must bend in order to accomodate the one who does not have a choice.
Its like if you were to be shot at. Are you (the one with the choice) going to move out of the way of the bullet, or will you expect the bullet (which cannot choose to move) to accomodate you, and move out of your way?
I stand by the statement that these guys are just trying to stir up a ruckus and trying to get attention so they can scream "discrimination!" as soon as the cook gives them 2 scoops of mashed potatoes instead of 3. Its not a big deal and we should not give them the attention that they seek. They should be concentrating on their duties.
But I must say that the disgusting, bigoted replies that some of the members make on this board, reflect quite poorly on the CF in general.
We do not live in the Holy Roman Empire. This is not the 12th century. Have we not evolved a little bit in the last thousand years? In my experiences members of the Canadian Forces have been intelligent and honorable men and women.
If you allow heterosexual marriages in the Military chapels, then there *is no excuse* not to allow homosexual marriages in the same chapels. No excuse what so ever. Besides of course blatant unfounded bigotry. Or they are attempting to cover up their own latent homosexuality, and believe if gay marriages are allowed in a military chapel, then that will turn them 100% homosexual and this will somehow be a negative thing. If the religious beliefs do not accept the sexuality of some people, then the government should should be boycotting these bigoted religions until they do get with the times.
It is no different then if you were to request seperate chapels for African Americans or Asian Americans or what have you. People of different races do not choose to be the race that they are, so condemning or judging them for being that way makes no sense at all, and is entierly pointless. The church has had to bend before, allowing people of different races to get married to eachother and soforth. Everything that exists must evolve and change in order to survive, sicne times do change. The king james version of the bible was not the first incarnation of the book to be dreamed up.
You are in Canada, alright? If you wish to fight for ancient, embarassing, outdated, unjust and oppressive religious views, I believe the Taliban is still looking for new recruits.
Yes, don‘t forget our brothers and sisters are fighting and dying to bring civil liberties to a country which had come to embrace these exact same outdated appalling religious beliefs that you are condoning.
Your religious beliefs are your own. This means they have no relevance when dealing with how others should act, when they are not harming anyone. So long as they do not affect anyone else negatively, then beleieve whatever the **** you want.
I hope the mods don‘t get too sensitive and lock this thread, because people should be registering their opinions.