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Re: CFPAS – All things PER, PDR, software ect… [MERGED]
« Reply #1425 on: February 15, 2017, 16:35:12 »
Can I get a PM too?

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Re: CFPAS – All things PER, PDR, software ect… [MERGED]
« Reply #1426 on: February 18, 2017, 14:14:07 »
Can I get a password too pls

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Re: CFPAS – All things PER, PDR, software ect… [MERGED]
« Reply #1427 on: February 19, 2017, 15:48:11 »
Can i get a PM for password as well

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Re: CFPAS – All things PER, PDR, software ect… [MERGED]
« Reply #1428 on: February 21, 2017, 07:18:38 »
Okay, I've PM-ed the password to the last 6 people who requested the password here, as there is no indication whether the info is still required or not.

As I previously noted deeper in this thread, anyone is free to PM me directly to get the password. 

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Re: CFPAS – All things PER, PDR, software ect… [MERGED]
« Reply #1429 on: February 23, 2017, 15:04:48 »
I could use the password!! can you send it to me? :)

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Re: CFPAS – All things PER, PDR, software ect… [MERGED]
« Reply #1430 on: February 26, 2017, 20:23:55 »
Anyone on right now that can send me the password?

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Re: CFPAS – All things PER, PDR, software ect… [MERGED]
« Reply #1431 on: February 27, 2017, 10:08:00 »
Password please! Thanks all!
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Re: CFPAS – All things PER, PDR, software ect… [MERGED]
« Reply #1432 on: March 02, 2017, 20:41:05 »
Could someone please pm me with said password as well. TIA

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Re: CFPAS – All things PER, PDR, software ect… [MERGED]
« Reply #1433 on: March 02, 2017, 20:47:39 »
letmein
You are not obliged to say anything. You have nothing to fear from any threat and you have nothing to hope from any promise whether or not you do say anything, but anything you say may be taken down in writing or recorded by other means, or both, and may be used as evidence. Do you fully understand this warning?

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Re: CFPAS – All things PER, PDR, software ect… [MERGED]
« Reply #1434 on: March 03, 2017, 10:49:18 »
I'm not sure publicly posting the password is appropriate.

While the staff suggested the we share the password widely with other military personnel, if they had wanted it available to everybody, I suspect that they would have posted it. 

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Re: CFPAS – All things PER, PDR, software ect… [MERGED]
« Reply #1435 on: March 03, 2017, 11:39:25 »
I'm not sure publicly posting the password is appropriate.

While the staff suggested the we share the password widely with other military personnel, if they had wanted it available to everybody, I suspect that they would have posted it. 

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The CDS posted it online in June 2012. Google: "Maple Leaf" & CFPAS. First hit: publications.gc.ca

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Or you could have Googled this:

http://www.ctvnews.ca/password-and-letmein-among-worst-passwords-ever-1.729935

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Re: CFPAS – All things PER, PDR, software ect… [MERGED]
« Reply #1436 on: March 04, 2017, 17:31:55 »
Hi, I did send a request for the password on the CFPAS web site and I didn't received anything and I also tried to call but no chance.  Now I'm stuck at home with 5 PER to write, can someone help me with the password to download CFPAS please.

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Re: CFPAS – All things PER, PDR, software ect… [MERGED]
« Reply #1438 on: March 04, 2017, 18:08:16 »
Thanks, really appreciated  [:D

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Re: Are PER's Protected B - And is this appropriate?
« Reply #1439 on: April 05, 2017, 16:00:29 »
USS and ISSO here :-)

If just the information at the top of the PER is filled out technically it's only Protected A. For those that fill out the PER with all the write up but leave the tombstone data out, it's still Protected B and as an ISSO if I had to do an ISSIR on this I would classify it as a security breach.  Please don't try the "but it only says Cpl Bloggins in it", I can tell you that by reading the write-up I will very likely be able to tell you who the PER is for and it should be encrypted.

As for "copies", in accordance with CFPAS there are only two versions allowed to be in existence once the PER is completed and signed by all parties. The original goes on a merit file (the merit file exists in different places for RegF vs NAVRES vs Militia), one copy is made and given to the individual who's PER it is.  That is it, that is all - any other copies are in contravention of CFPAS.

What a member decides to do with their PER is up to them, it's their document and information regarding them.  If they want to scan it and post it to Facebook, all the more power to them.  If anyone else has a copy of it, it's in contravention of CFPAS.  If anyone else an electronic copy of it and it's not encrypted than it's an IS Security Infraction and an ISSIR should be completed.

Advice from an ISSO... encrypt working copies, once they're delivered to the individual, delete all electronic copies and ensure you don't have "working copies."

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Re: Are PER's Protected B - And is this appropriate?
« Reply #1440 on: April 05, 2017, 19:51:41 »
But I wonder why you would want to post it "publicly"?

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Re: Are PER's Protected B - And is this appropriate?
« Reply #1441 on: April 05, 2017, 20:52:12 »
USS and ISSO here :-)

If just the information at the top of the PER is filled out technically it's only Protected A. For those that fill out the PER with all the write up but leave the tombstone data out, it's still Protected B and as an ISSO if I had to do an ISSIR on this I would classify it as a security breach.  Please don't try the "but it only says Cpl Bloggins in it", I can tell you that by reading the write-up I will very likely be able to tell you who the PER is for and it should be encrypted.

As for "copies", in accordance with CFPAS there are only two versions allowed to be in existence once the PER is completed and signed by all parties. The original goes on a merit file (the merit file exists in different places for RegF vs NAVRES vs Militia), one copy is made and given to the individual who's PER it is.  That is it, that is all - any other copies are in contravention of CFPAS.

What a member decides to do with their PER is up to them, it's their document and information regarding them.  If they want to scan it and post it to Facebook, all the more power to them.  If anyone else has a copy of it, it's in contravention of CFPAS.  If anyone else an electronic copy of it and it's not encrypted than it's an IS Security Infraction and an ISSIR should be completed.

Advice from an ISSO... encrypt working copies, once they're delivered to the individual, delete all electronic copies and ensure you don't have "working copies."

No encryption needed if it is on a Protected B medium and properly stored.


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Re: Are PER's Protected B - And is this appropriate?
« Reply #1442 on: April 05, 2017, 21:53:55 »
I may be mistaken on this one but I believe the treasury board regs require all GC removable media to be encrypted.
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Re: Are PER's Protected B - And is this appropriate?
« Reply #1443 on: April 05, 2017, 22:18:49 »
No encryption needed if it is on a Protected B medium and properly stored.

As far as DWAN machines go, Protected A is authorized for processing and storage, while Protected B is only authorized for processing.  Any storage must be PKI encrypted.

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Re: Are PER's Protected B - And is this appropriate?
« Reply #1444 on: April 05, 2017, 22:33:46 »
I may be mistaken on this one but I believe the treasury board regs require all GC removable media to be encrypted.

True, however, TB regs also state :

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Only on an exception basis, as per departmental / agency risk tolerance and with formal departmental / agency approval, may unencrypted GC information be stored on a non-password or non-biometric controlled portable data storage device

And the department of National defense makes such an exception:

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Can't find it off DWAN. Anyways, the policy from ADM(IM) is pretty much verbatim what the TB policy is, but it adds a para that reads something like: " portable data storage devices, if not intended to contain classified material, are not required to be encrypted".

I can paste it tomorrow but essentially, if I can store  a hard copy PROB  file in my filing cabinet, why can't I store a PROB USB key containing unencrypted PROB files in the same filing cabinet?

Don't even get me started on storing encrypted PROB files on hard drive...
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Re: Are PER's Protected B - And is this appropriate?
« Reply #1445 on: April 05, 2017, 22:48:07 »
It's worth consulting the DGDS website (DWAN only) for security regulations; I believe that some have been rewritten.
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Re: Are PER's Protected B - And is this appropriate?
« Reply #1446 on: April 06, 2017, 08:51:57 »
According to MARPAC IS security orders, if you store PROB information on a USB stick unencrypted, you store the USB key in a PROB cabinet just like all your other PROB file. If, however, the PROB information is encrypted, then you can store the USB stick in the same manner as a PROA file.

Now that's just one Formation in the RCN; other elements might have different policies, but the policy makes sense to me. Why would we have to lock up and encrypt electronic information when the hardcopies are only locked up?
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