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Re: CAN Reservists serving overseas (merged thread)
« Reply #75 on: October 16, 2012, 14:44:31 »
As I am currently looking into this... Just a note for naval reserve members looking to do this in Australia, the Australian naval reserve system is quite different from here in Canada. 

They used to have individual units where reserve members parade at weekly and do training on the weekends like our NRDs but they got rid of those a couple years ago and now RAN reservists just fill part-time and full-time positions at RAN reg force establishments.  This is important to note because some of these big bases can be further outside the major cities making them difficult to get to compared to our traditional in-city reserve units. 

The Australian Army however, still uses the reserve unit model so that will make taking advantage of the MOU a bit easier for Canadian Army reservists.

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Parading in a different country (Commonwealth)
« Reply #76 on: October 19, 2012, 06:31:50 »
I'm a Spr in the CF, and I am doing a study abroad year in England next year.  I talked to my Capt while on my last course and he said that i could parade out of a British unit for the year.  Since talking to him I have not found much of anything in regard to this topic.  I have heard that it is possible as long as it is a commonwealth country.  Does anyone else know if this is possible? Has anyone heard of someone parading out of unit in another country?

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Re: Parading in a different country (Commonwealth)
« Reply #77 on: October 19, 2012, 06:57:56 »
If you're a reservist, there's a thread on this here:
http://forums.milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,58217.0.html
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Re: Parading in a different country (Commonwealth)
« Reply #78 on: October 19, 2012, 07:39:59 »
CANFORGEN 177/12 "Reserve Class A Foreign Service and Training Programs" provides details.  DND has an MOU with the UK MOD, Austrailian DOD and US DOD, so what your asking is very possible.

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Re: Parading in a different country (Commonwealth)
« Reply #79 on: October 19, 2012, 07:53:29 »
Skitzo_222:  Check your PMs

DAA, IRT CANFORGEN 177/12, contacting the High Commissions or Embassy will not help.  They will simply refer you to your parent unit.  Go to your parent unit and refer them to CFG 177/12.  The process must be initiated there.  E-mail me on the DWAN if you have any questions.  My e-mail is in CFG 177/12.
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Re: Parading in a different country (Commonwealth)
« Reply #80 on: October 19, 2012, 08:26:34 »
Skitzo_222:  Check your PMs

DAA, IRT CANFORGEN 177/12, contacting the High Commissions or Embassy will not help.  They will simply refer you to your parent unit.  Go to your parent unit and refer them to CFG 177/12.  The process must be initiated there.  E-mail me on the DWAN if you have any questions.  My e-mail is in CFG 177/12.

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And thnks for bringing that to our attention!!!!   How would a scenario such as this work???

Reg F member posted OUTCAN and whose spouse is Res F and belongs to a PRL which does not have Class A positions available.  How would the program apply to them?
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Re: CAN Reservists serving overseas (merged thread)
« Reply #81 on: October 19, 2012, 13:06:43 »
My understanding is that the MOU is not a guarantee that they would be able to parade class A but just provides the possibility.  It is best for the mbr to do some of their own research and propose potential host units that can accommodate them.

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Re: Parading in a different country (Commonwealth)
« Reply #82 on: October 19, 2012, 13:15:09 »
How would a scenario such as this work???

Reg F member posted OUTCAN and whose spouse is Res F and belongs to a PRL which does not have Class A positions available.  How would the program apply to them?

An excellent question that we have run across before with the NDHQ PRL. 

The Reservist would have to transfer back to their environment and find a "home port unit/Division" that is willing to take them on their establishment AND fund their Class A parading in the receiving state.
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Re: Parading in a different country (Commonwealth)
« Reply #83 on: October 19, 2012, 13:25:54 »
An excellent question that we have run across before with the NDHQ PRL. 

The Reservist would have to transfer back to their environment and find a "home port unit/Division" that is willing to take them on their establishment AND fund their Class A parading in the receiving state.

That would require a very charitable unit indeed...
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Re: Parading in a different country (Commonwealth)
« Reply #84 on: October 19, 2012, 14:49:29 »
That would require a very charitable unit indeed...

I've been working on these files for almost four years and have yet to find a CO who is that charitable.
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Re: Parading in a different country (Commonwealth)
« Reply #85 on: October 19, 2012, 16:34:22 »
I've been working on these files for almost four years and have yet to find a CO who is that charitable.

We have had a few "really good" people who worked for us on full-time Class B (eg: PRL Managed), whose Reg F spouse was posted OUTCAN and they naturally followed, but they transferred over to the Supp Res prior to leaving.

And the shame of it all.......If they should ever come back to our area, which may very well happen, and a Class B position opens up, which it does from time to time, and they apply we can't even look at rehiring them if a currently active PRes member applies.  Supp Res pers are at the back of the line....

Surprised that Ottawa doesn't consider limited funding for keeping these people "active" and involved.
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Re: CAN Reservists serving overseas (merged thread)
« Reply #86 on: October 19, 2012, 20:00:42 »
I was in touch with Haggis on this one, but I'm starting the process right now on a neat one. I've got a former active duty US Marine Corps infantryman who's now on their 'individual ready reserve'. Think of it as five years compulsory supp res where once a year you're paid to fly in and do a muster parade for the sake of annual readiness. He's up here now going to school - he's a dual citizen - and is very interested in attaching to my unit to parade and train with us. Trouble is because he's IRR, there isn't a field unit that 'owns' him; he's just on a big list somewhere. So I anticipate significant difficulty in trying to get buy in from their side. The trouble is, on the Canadian side I'd have a pretty good idea of who to at least go to. With the Americans their entire system is literally very foreign to me and I don't know the ins and outs that normally help me muddle my way through bureaucracy...

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Re: Parading in a different country (Commonwealth)
« Reply #87 on: October 19, 2012, 22:03:29 »
Surprised that Ottawa doesn't consider limited funding for keeping these people "active" and involved.

A conundrum we'd face in that case is ensuring that "Ottawa" provides these folks with enough Class A days to make a worthwhile contribution to the receiving state.  We've had some requests come through authorizing just enough days to keep a member off the NES list while serving OUTCAN. Receiving state units aren't interested in this so it's hardly worth the staff effort at times.

I'd love to be able to support this.  But what little money I have in my training budget goes towards funding opportunities which will produce a return on investment on the Armoury Floor/deck plates/flight line of P Res units and aid in readiness and succession planning.
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Canadian soldier attach post to us military
« Reply #88 on: November 24, 2013, 21:25:30 »
Hello, I am a Ccanadian combat engineer reservist, my wife has an awsome job offer in St. Louis, am I able to get attached to the American military ?

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Re: Canadian soldier attach post to us military
« Reply #89 on: November 24, 2013, 21:44:43 »
It is possible for a Class A reservist to parade in the US, yes.

Don't ask me the particulars, but I know it can be requested.

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Re: Canadian soldier attach post to us military
« Reply #90 on: November 24, 2013, 22:11:35 »
Hello, I am a Ccanadian combat engineer reservist, my wife has an awsome job offer in St. Louis, am I able to get attached to the American military ?

RESERVE FORCES FOREIGN SERVICE ARRANGEMENT
http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/caf-community-support-services-for-members-reservists/foreign-service-agreements.page

CAN Reservists serving overseas (merged thread)
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=58217.msg1179622#msg1179622
See Reply #39, 40 ... and those following for discussion of RFFSA.
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Re: Canadian soldier attach post to us military
« Reply #91 on: November 24, 2013, 23:12:22 »
I don't know if it's possible, but I do know that the U.S. Army Engineer School is only two hrs away from St. Louis at Fort Leonard Wood, MO but maybe you already knew that. I believe the CA has one or two officers there (Capt/Maj) either on exchange or as LNOs.

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Re: Canadian soldier attach post to us military
« Reply #92 on: November 24, 2013, 23:26:09 »
The Missouri National Guard's 35th Engineer Brigade is at Ft Leonard Wood.

http://www.moguard.com/thirty-fifth-engineer-brigade.html

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Reservist Exchange in the UK?
« Reply #93 on: June 05, 2017, 23:33:52 »
I'm a Jr Officer in the CAR Armoured Reserve and wondering if it's possible to do an exchange with the Brits while I'm there studying or working for a couple years? Does anyone have any experience or references on something like this?

Thank-you in advance!




edit for clarity
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Re: Reservist Exchange in the UK?
« Reply #94 on: June 06, 2017, 00:01:36 »
There is a thread somewhere on this Site that discusses this.

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Re: Reserve Forces Foreign Service Arrangements
« Reply #95 on: June 06, 2017, 07:18:44 »
See also,

Reserve Force Foreign Service Arrangements ( RFFSA )
http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/caf-community-support-services-for-members-reservists/foreign-service-agreements.page
The Reserve Force Foreign Service Arrangements (RFFSA) are a series of Memorandums of Understanding (MOU) between Canada and other countries with similar Reserve Force structures.
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