Author Topic: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]  (Read 257689 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline dapaterson

  • Army.ca Subscriber
  • Army.ca Legend
  • *
  • 363,805
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 14,568
Re: Should Med Techs get Spec pay?
« Reply #325 on: March 11, 2009, 20:14:36 »
Within DND, it's DPPD that would prepare the file, which would then go as a corporate submission to TB.  It would not go alone; any other changes to spec pay for other trades would probably go in as an omnibus.

The process is never fast, and never guaranteed.
This posting made in accordance with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, section 2(b):
Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/charter/1.html

Online mariomike

  • Directing Staff
  • Army.ca Fixture
  • *
  • 414,270
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 7,057
    • The job.
Get on the bus. Take a ride with us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2lSGnPl-ww

Offline medicineman

  • Well stuck into my new job and thoroughly enjoying it.
  • Army.ca Fixture
  • *****
  • 131,660
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 6,592
  • In Arduis Fidelis
    • Fed By The Firehose
Re: Should Med Techs get Spec pay?
« Reply #327 on: March 14, 2009, 22:02:57 »
I got a rather terse e-mail at work the other day telling us bluntly that we would know when and if it happens - otherwise, stop asking.  This has been going on for the 20 years I've been a Reg Force medic, so I'll believe it when I see it.

MM
MM

Remember the basics of Medicine - "Pink is GOOD, Blue is BAD, Air goes in AND out, Blood Goes Round and Round"

I may sound like a pessimist, but I am a realist.

Offline Rider Pride

  • Mentor
  • Army.ca Veteran
  • *
  • 29,408
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 4,815
  • Easy to draw, hard to spell
Re: Should Med Techs get Spec pay?
« Reply #328 on: March 14, 2009, 22:06:37 »
MM,
thats the consensus in the classroom as well.

One guy said he first heard medics were getting spec pay when he joined....
in 1986.
"Return with your shield, or upon it."

Offline medicineman

  • Well stuck into my new job and thoroughly enjoying it.
  • Army.ca Fixture
  • *****
  • 131,660
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 6,592
  • In Arduis Fidelis
    • Fed By The Firehose
Re: Should Med Techs get Spec pay?
« Reply #329 on: March 14, 2009, 22:12:06 »
Yup - and now I have it.  But alas, I'm not a medic anymore  ::).

MM
MM

Remember the basics of Medicine - "Pink is GOOD, Blue is BAD, Air goes in AND out, Blood Goes Round and Round"

I may sound like a pessimist, but I am a realist.

Offline MediPea

  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • 3,070
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 720
Re: Should Med Techs get Spec pay?
« Reply #330 on: March 14, 2009, 22:26:14 »
I'm still keeping my fingers crossed... but definitely not holding my breath!

Offline Rider Pride

  • Mentor
  • Army.ca Veteran
  • *
  • 29,408
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 4,815
  • Easy to draw, hard to spell
Re: Should Med Techs get Spec pay?
« Reply #331 on: March 14, 2009, 22:39:43 »
Medi,
If you are a Sgt, and still saying medics will get spec pay....

MM,
good news is, if they get spec pay, we'll go up to either spec 2 or Capt 6+ levels, its all good for us regardless.
"Return with your shield, or upon it."

Offline GAP

  • Semper Fi
  • Army.ca Subscriber
  • Army.ca Legend
  • *
  • 204,300
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 12,866
Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #332 on: May 19, 2009, 20:00:52 »
Hundreds of special forces soldiers to get pay raise
Last Updated: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 | 6:33 PM ETCBC News
 Article Link

Hundreds of Canadian soldiers will receive a pay raise this month — as much as $18,000 per year in some cases — CBC News has learned.

The military has approved a new allowance for some members of the Canadian Special Operations Forces Command. Troops as well as technicians and support staff who work with the elite troops are eligible for the pay increase.

"When we're looking at the whole command, we're really deploying a special operations task force," said the command's chief of staff, Lt.-Col. Jean-Francois Prevost. "We pick the right capabilities from each one of those units."

The special forces command runs several regiments, and one of Prevost's duties is overseeing administration and support for the elite forces.

One of those units, the secretive Joint Task Force 2, is quite well known, and its soldiers are said to be among the most highly trained in the world. These troops, whose mission is to focus on counter-terrorism and hostage rescue, have received extra pay for years.

Two other special forces units that send their members into the field alongside those commandos will now also start receiving that extra pay.

This includes soldiers with specialized training in handling nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. It also includes commandos who perform the most daring infantry attacks and patrol behind enemy lines. The extra pay ranges from $8,000 to nearly $18,000 a year.

"It's really to be fairly compensated for what we're asking them to do," said Prevost. "It shows our people that we care for them."
More on link
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I´m not so sure about the universe

Offline MCG

  • Army.ca Legend
  • *****
  • 187,530
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 11,408
Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #333 on: May 19, 2009, 21:05:45 »
There was a CANFORGEN on the special operations allowance recently.  Those who are interested can go looking for details.

... and it's in addition to the Land Duty Allowance too.

Offline sidereus

  • Guest
  • *
  • 1,080
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 13
Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #334 on: May 21, 2009, 14:10:55 »
1 word :   keshink !! $$$

that's a great news for the soldiers... But I still think that our soldiers are not earning as much as they should. After all, their job is dangerous !

Offline Michael O'Leary

  • The moral high ground cannot be dominated by fire alone, it must be occupied to be claimed as held.
  • Army.ca Fixture
  • *****
  • 300,015
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 9,640
    • The Regimental Rogue
Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #335 on: May 21, 2009, 14:17:12 »
1 word :   keshink !! $$$

that's a great news for the soldiers... But I still think that our soldiers are not earning as much as they should. After all, their job is dangerous !

So, how much do you think our soldiers should be earning?

Offline Technoviking

    DANCE TO THE TECHNOVIKING.

  • Army.ca Subscriber
  • Army.ca Legend
  • *
  • 181,791
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 11,797
  • OBEY!
Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #336 on: May 21, 2009, 14:24:54 »
So, how much do you think our soldiers should be earning?
Personally,I think we should earn one billion dollars (said in best Dr. Evil voice, of course).

;D
So, there I was....

Offline Ki11switch

  • Jr. Member
  • ***
  • 2,310
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 56
Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #337 on: May 21, 2009, 15:59:09 »
Personally,I think we should earn one billion dollars (said in best Dr. Evil voice, of course).

;D

No, no, too greedy. I'm thinking $250,000 plus quartly weekend trips comped to Caesers Palace in Vegas would do nicely. And free Timmies
\"Sic Infit\"
"I would rather try and failed, than failed to try"

Offline sidereus

  • Guest
  • *
  • 1,080
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 13
Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #338 on: May 21, 2009, 20:59:37 »
So, how much do you think our soldiers should be earning?

well...well  ;D

if u ask me... hmm more than a Hockey player...that's for sure...

You know, it's difficult to define what a good salary is for that kind of job... ???

What about you ? How much do you think a soldier should be earning ?

Offline Rider Pride

  • Mentor
  • Army.ca Veteran
  • *
  • 29,408
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 4,815
  • Easy to draw, hard to spell
Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #339 on: May 21, 2009, 23:11:39 »
Best part about it for those whom are receiving the allowance for the first time is that it is retro to 1 Apr 07.

I also note that they are adding a casual SOA allowance...perhaps for a reserve unit/reservists?
"Return with your shield, or upon it."

Offline Michael O'Leary

  • The moral high ground cannot be dominated by fire alone, it must be occupied to be claimed as held.
  • Army.ca Fixture
  • *****
  • 300,015
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 9,640
    • The Regimental Rogue
Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #340 on: May 22, 2009, 00:07:07 »
What about you ? How much do you think a soldier should be earning ?

Well, after the improvements in pay scales of the past few decades, I wouldn't say any of us are particularly underpaid.  There are situations like these new allowances which I suspect are to provide greater pay parity with civilian opportunities to hopefully lessen attrition, but that doesn't mean everyone deserves an increase.


Offline Antoine

  • Full Member
  • *****
  • 8,810
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 352
  • Achieving singularity and paradigm shifts
Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #341 on: May 22, 2009, 02:47:06 »
Congrats guys, from my civilian point of view, I always thought that more money should be put in the CF, knowing that in the past the government may have spent money in controversial areas, it is a good news.  :)
 :cdn:
The Future Is Coming Sooner Then You Think - 2007 U.S. Congress study by the Joint Economic Committee
The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom - Isaac Asimov
We risk continuing to fight a 21st-century conflict with 20th-century rules - John Reid, British secretary of state for defence
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity

Offline sidereus

  • Guest
  • *
  • 1,080
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 13
Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #342 on: May 22, 2009, 11:50:06 »
but that doesn't mean everyone deserves an increase.

honestly... I don't want to be in the crew of the guy who doesn't deserve it :-\ ... especially on the battlefields :2c:

Offline Michael O'Leary

  • The moral high ground cannot be dominated by fire alone, it must be occupied to be claimed as held.
  • Army.ca Fixture
  • *****
  • 300,015
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 9,640
    • The Regimental Rogue
Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #343 on: May 22, 2009, 12:30:16 »
honestly... I don't want to be in the crew of the guy who doesn't deserve it :-\ ... especially on the battlefields :2c:

Interesting twist on wordplay there.  You still haven't said what you think service members should be paid, so why keep trying to milk this thread?  Your remarks are now just trolling.

Offline recceguy

    A Usual Suspect.

  • At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child – miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. -P.J. O’Rouke-
  • Directing Staff
  • Army.ca Myth
  • *
  • 239,897
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 17,487
  • doddering docent to the museum of misanthropy
    • Army.ca
Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #344 on: May 22, 2009, 15:32:42 »
I'm special.

Extra 18000 and you can do what you want.
I hope it includes (which I sure it will) a pay jump for our 427 pilots/crew and clerks as well.Well deserved to all,never complain about people getting more money.

Hope your first purchase with your new found wealth is a big box of 'humble'. So much for quiet professionalism. No one bemoans a well earned benefit to those that deserve it, but there is no need to rub the noses of those less fortunate in it.

While there is no need to complain about extra money, it's immature and unprofessional to flaunt it.
“I am a Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, or free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and all mankind.”

John G. Diefenbaker

Offline Strike

  • Army.ca Veteran
  • *****
  • 22,906
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 4,358
  • Welcome to the Dead Parrot's Society.
    • The Home of the Salt, Lilly, Winstall (Wincentaylo) & Blouin Family Tree Website
Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #345 on: May 22, 2009, 16:34:42 »
I must say, it's coming at  handy time administratively.  All I have to do is pull out my LDA form to back up my request for back-pay on this allowance.  Granted, it's not much monetarily, but the points are now already calculated.
Don't piss me off.  I have two older brothers, work with a bunch of men, and I can kick their asses!
BOOT TO THE HEAD!

Offline recceguy

    A Usual Suspect.

  • At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child – miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. -P.J. O’Rouke-
  • Directing Staff
  • Army.ca Myth
  • *
  • 239,897
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 17,487
  • doddering docent to the museum of misanthropy
    • Army.ca
Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #346 on: May 22, 2009, 16:52:06 »
I must say, it's coming at  handy time administratively.  All I have to do is pull out my LDA form to back up my request for back-pay on this allowance.  Granted, it's not much monetarily, but the points are now already calculated.

Congratulations. I'm glad those receiving it are getting it. In the vast majority of the cases, it's well deserved.
“I am a Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, or free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and all mankind.”

John G. Diefenbaker

Offline Strike

  • Army.ca Veteran
  • *****
  • 22,906
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 4,358
  • Welcome to the Dead Parrot's Society.
    • The Home of the Salt, Lilly, Winstall (Wincentaylo) & Blouin Family Tree Website
Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #347 on: May 22, 2009, 17:33:36 »
Congratulations. I'm glad those receiving it are getting it. In the vast majority of the cases, it's well deserved.

Awe...does that mean you think I'm special too?  You are so sweet!   ;)  (I'd prefer to add  heart emoticon here but am just too lazy to search for one!)
Don't piss me off.  I have two older brothers, work with a bunch of men, and I can kick their asses!
BOOT TO THE HEAD!

Offline X-mo-1979

  • Army.ca Veteran
  • *****
  • 11,605
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 1,046
Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #348 on: May 22, 2009, 18:27:26 »
Hope your first purchase with your new found wealth is a big box of 'humble'. So much for quiet professionalism. No one bemoans a well earned benefit to those that deserve it, but there is no need to rub the noses of those less fortunate in it.

While there is no need to complain about extra money, it's immature and unprofessional to flaunt it.

It's was a joke.I am getting LDA....that's about it.

Offline recceguy

    A Usual Suspect.

  • At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child – miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. -P.J. O’Rouke-
  • Directing Staff
  • Army.ca Myth
  • *
  • 239,897
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 17,487
  • doddering docent to the museum of misanthropy
    • Army.ca
Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #349 on: May 22, 2009, 19:20:02 »
Awe...does that mean you think I'm special too?  You are so sweet!   ;)  (I'd prefer to add  heart emoticon here but am just too lazy to search for one!)

Your always special Strike ;)
“I am a Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, or free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and all mankind.”

John G. Diefenbaker