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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #325 on: March 16, 2011, 19:02:04 »
Thanks for all the quick replies they're all very helpful, please keep em coming.
Does anyone know if (any) of the trades posted are given in Esquimalt only?

thanks again.

p.s. that link is from 2008

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« Reply #326 on: March 16, 2011, 19:13:12 »
Does anyone know if (any) of the trades posted are given in Esquimalt only?

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and if there is any Navy trades out there that you can only have in BC.


None of them.

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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #327 on: March 16, 2011, 19:16:45 »
Helicopter Shipborne Sensor Operations
Maritime Patrol Sensor Operator

These 2 trades do not exist in the regular force. They are Pres divisions of AES Op.

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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #328 on: March 16, 2011, 19:27:07 »
Thanks for the clarification CDN Aviator.  I simply copy and pasted from garb811's post from 2005, but I later found the actual link and XLS file which I posted afterwards - which I believe has more accurate information.   :)

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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #329 on: March 16, 2011, 19:28:08 »
Interesting, always thought Sonar Op's got spec pay.  I always thought spec pay was defined basically by whether there is a civilian equivalent to the job, I guess that was VERY wrong!

They do get spec pay, but only at the QL5 level and above.

And spec pay is FAR more complicated than simply whether there is a civilian equivalent to the job or not.

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« Reply #330 on: March 16, 2011, 19:30:51 »
Stacked, the reason why you didnt see Sonar Op on the spec pay list is because it is old and has it under one of its former names "

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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #331 on: March 16, 2011, 19:38:42 »
Here's an even more up to date list, effective 1 April 2010.
http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dgcb-dgras/pub/cbi-dra/204-eng.asp
Look for "TABLE A TO CBI 204.30 - ALLOCATION OF MOSID TO SPECIALIST TRADE GROUPS" about halfway down the page.
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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #332 on: March 18, 2011, 00:19:02 »
There are no navy trades that are west coast only (sandy bottom sailing is not a trade ;D).  The best you could hope for would be to request a navy trade and then ask for Esquimalt as your "Home Port Division."  An HPD West would keep you in Esquimalt for the bulk of your career (with the exception of postings to Ottawa - no one is exempted those -, RSS in western Canadian Naval Reserve units, CFRC or CFLRS staff, etc.).  You also need to be careful as some navy trades (especially the smaller ones) do not have  HPDs, which means you can be posted back and forth from coast to coast.
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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #333 on: June 18, 2012, 15:05:40 »
http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dgcb-dgras/ps/je-ee/faq/otguao-mjgpmga-eng.asp
Firstly, yay for searching.  I knew it had to be in here somewhere.

If you browse that website coming down from root, you end up at the FAQ where you see " "Occupation Trade Group Update - Active Occupations".  If you click that, the link is broken and it doesn't point to the spreadsheet above...which is strangely actually IN THE SAME section of that FAQ.  Where's the webmaster? hehe.

Anyway,  Thanks for the file & info.

Can I ask, is this it for spec pay?  1 & 2?  There's no classified trades that get anything beyond this?

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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #334 on: June 18, 2012, 15:45:58 »
classified trades

What is a "classified trade" ?

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that get anything beyond this?

There is nothing indicated after specialist 2. What does this tell you ?

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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #335 on: June 18, 2012, 19:50:32 »
So there are no Officer trades that get "spec" pay or other incentives?


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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #336 on: June 18, 2012, 19:51:59 »
So there are no Officer trades that get "spec" pay

No.

Certain officer MOS have their own separate pay scale, however (such as pilots, lawyers and doctors).

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« Reply #337 on: June 18, 2012, 21:14:28 »
No.

Certain officer MOS have their own separate pay scale, however (such as pilots, lawyers and doctors).

Yea, i was just wondering if there was anything else. That's ok though.

I assume it's because officer pay is generally higher anyways?

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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #338 on: June 18, 2012, 21:26:42 »
I assume it's because officer pay is generally higher anyways?

No. Officer pay is higher because the responsibilities and scope of employment are much different. Most officer MOS are in a group called "general service officers" so there is no "spec pay" as they are generalists.

NCM trades function in a different way.

That's my Cole's notes explanation.

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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #339 on: June 18, 2012, 21:31:05 »
No.

Certain officer MOS have their own separate pay scale, however (such as pilots, lawyers and doctors).
And not to be left out, our Dental Officer colleagues.

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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #340 on: March 26, 2016, 09:18:20 »
This was posted today in another thread. Adding it here as an update,

Specialist Pay - For Regular Force NCM MOSIDs
Date modified: 2015-06-09
http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/caf-community-pay/specialist-pay-reg-force-ncm-mosids.page
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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #341 on: January 10, 2017, 12:10:53 »
For reference,

ACISS Occupation - Spec Pay (former LCIS Techs)
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,124963.msg1471696/topicseen.html#new
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