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Celer et Audax
« on: March 13, 2005, 19:26:17 »
I honestly have no idea which section this belongs in...

I was simply hoping someone could tell me the proper pronunciation as I have very limited knowledge of Latin...

I've heard it pronounced several different ways, and sadly google came up with nothing helpful.
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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2005, 21:21:21 »
Bit of an explanation here: Look for the Green Jackets

http://www.military-quotes.com/mottos/UK.htm

It translates to "Swift and Bold". It is 180 degree turnabout of the unofficial motto of the RCD "Audax et Celer" translating to "Bold and Swift"
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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2005, 21:34:30 »
I was actually aware of the translation, what I've never known is how its actually pronounced.

I've heard 'See-lair et aw-doo-wa' and also 'cee-lair eh oo-du-wa'

Reason Im asking is, Im having it tattooed on my forearms (Celer on the underside of my right forearm, Audax on my left) and when asked, would not only be able to translate it, but at least pronounce it properly.

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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2005, 21:36:21 »
when people ask, just look at them condescendingly, snort in dusgust at their appalling ignorance, and walk away.
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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2005, 21:43:26 »
..or get something you can pronounce...........
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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2005, 21:50:36 »
..or get something you can pronounce...........

I'm not getting it for the words, but the meaning of them. Pronunciation would be a bonus mind you...
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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2005, 22:03:05 »
A tatoo.  Cool.  Get one that comes off easily in forty years.  On the plus side, it will keep you out of some "retirement" "security" (winkwink) "jobs" in later life, when you want to go fishing with the grandkids, but the "firm" wants someone who won't stand out on a beach. 

Oh, you have tatoos?  Next!

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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2005, 22:31:30 »
A tattoo.  Cool.  Get one that comes off easily in forty years.  On the plus side, it will keep you out of some "retirement" "security" (winkwink) "jobs" in later life, when you want to go fishing with the grandkids, but the "firm" wants someone who won't stand out on a beach. 

Oh, you have tattoos?  Next!

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Not really an issue for me, pronunciation is though. Anyone?
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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2005, 23:08:51 »
http://www.dl.ket.org/latin1/review/


Learn away lad,

Since you have got a life time to wear the tat, then you can take the time to learn it.

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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2005, 23:26:47 »
From what I can gather, seems I was petty much on the dot with how I was pronouncing it...
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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2005, 23:31:34 »
whew that was quick...

See not that hard with the internet eh?  Now imagine a first generation Italian kid, in a Highland regiment, trying to explain the kilt to his family, then going out and getting a tattoo of his cap badge with a Gaelic motto.

No internet in those days...so I made it up with a lot of practice and booze to help soften the tongue....


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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2005, 23:37:42 »
whew that was quick...

See not that hard with the internet eh?  Now imagine a first generation Italian kid, in a Highland regiment, trying to explain the kilt to his family, then going out and getting a tattoo of his cap badge with a Gaelic motto.

No internet in those days...so I made it up with a lot of practice and booze to help soften the tongue....


hehehehe

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 ;D ;D It was mostly a question of whether the 'r' was silent, and how 'au' was to be pronounced. My family is Scottish with a lot of Military roots, so I've got things easier than you.  ;D :o
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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2005, 07:56:19 »
Just make sure you get that Tat with a better font than Farmboy did.  Its so hard to read his.   :warstory:

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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2005, 07:59:17 »
I wasn't going to post, but can't resist.......Are you not a little concerned that the women will find "Swift" a little bit of a shortcoming?
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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2005, 10:27:36 »
If you want to pronounce it as latin would be traditionally pronounced, I would guess:

"Seller et odd-axe"

Basically as it's spelled.

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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2005, 10:33:53 »
I would have though keller et odd-ax - 'et' as in 'met'   and 'odd' as in 'Audi' - or, in a non-classical pinch, cheller et odd-ax - cheller as in Cheddar
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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2005, 11:35:40 »
I wasn't going to post, but can't resist.......Are you not a little concerned that the women will find "Swift" a little bit of a shortcoming?

hahaha, hopefully the "bold" will make up for it.  ;)
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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2005, 19:06:44 »
Celer et Audax is also the motto of the Regina Johns. Whose British affiliate is the Royal Green Jackets

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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2017, 13:00:10 »
I honestly have no idea which section this belongs in...

I was simply hoping someone could tell me the proper pronunciation as I have very limited knowledge of Latin...

I've heard it pronounced several different ways, and sadly google came up with nothing helpful.
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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2017, 14:00:24 »
Twelve years later we finally have an answer! [:D
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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2017, 21:59:52 »
It's been a long, looooong time since I was a schoolboy and perhaps our knowledge of how Latin was spoken has improved, but I learned that it was pronounced something like "Keeler." I remember a bit of doggerel verse designed to keep us on track with the C words: "Cato, Plato Cicero (pronounced kick-ero), they all make me sickero."

But maybe the knowledge of the classics has advanced while I wasn't looking ~ and it's been way more than a half century since I gave even the tiniest if damns.
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Re: Celer et Audax
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2017, 22:31:25 »
Twelve years later we finally have an answer! [:D

I wonder if he actually went through with getting the tattoo, and if he still has it.
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