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Offline FlyLikeAnEagle

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References question
« on: April 11, 2017, 14:33:03 »
So, I just talked to my "recruiting councillor" and she said that the "powers that be" are doing my reference checks & criminal/background check. Now, one of.the references if a 5th cousin and I work for him regularly. If they contacted him, do they swear him to secrecy? Or can he tell me that they kicked tires with him? Also, do you think that disqualifies him from vouch ing for me? Our relation  is so far (his grandmother & my mother's grandfather were siblings) that it shouldn't, normally.

Also, the "recruiting councillor" also said that the trade I chose "boatswain" was to be decided by the 19th of April. Assuming this is a rough estimate and they don't fulfill the jobs (32) can it carry over to May? June? Or should I assume that if I hear nothing from them, my check didn't go good?

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Re: References question
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2017, 14:49:51 »
Your reference check is being conducted by a third party company (Mintz Global Screening). You should have informed your references beforehand so that they would expect a call. The rules on the application are clear: Members of the family or relatives, family friends, friends, neighbours, co-workers or peers are not considered valid references.

Having said, a fifth cousin is so distant that it would not have been worth mentioning it on the application, merely stating him as a "supervisor" which falls under the scope of "professional references" would have been sufficient. That is my opinion and how I probably would have handled it; so I would say, no, it does not disqualify him from vouching for you.

There is nothing that prevents your references from following up with you if they receive a call.

To answer your final question, if they do not fill all the positions on April 19th, they will use future selection dates to fill those positions. It can take a long time for your file to be processed depending on  when you submitted your application and the stage that its at right now. If your file is completed later this year and you are placed on the competition list but all the positions have been filled, you will potentially have to wait until next year for new openings and a chance at being selected. When it comes to that point, the chance of you being selected depends on the strength of your application compared to that of the other candidates on the competition list.

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Re: References question
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2017, 14:59:47 »
Your reference check is being conducted by a third party company (Mintz Global Screening). You should have informed your references beforehand so that they would expect a call. The rules on the application are clear: Members of the family or relatives, family friends, friends, neighbours, co-workers or peers are not considered valid references.

Having said, a fifth cousin is so distant that it would not have been worth mentioning it on the application, merely stating him as a "supervisor" which falls under the scope of "professional references" would have been sufficient. That is my opinion and how I probably would have handled it; so I would say, no, it does not disqualify him from vouching for you.

There is nothing that prevents your references from following up with you if they receive a call.

To answer your second question, if they do not fill all the positions on April 19th, they will use future selection dates to fill those positions.

I got the okay from them all..I called to ask them if they'd do it and they all said yeah. I only asked on part of my cousin is that if he blurts our relationship  (as far back as it is) it doesn't smear his reputation. I was sure to chose high position people (teacher, former Sgt in the US Army, head of the welding school & Chief) so I look good.

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Re: References question
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2017, 15:02:24 »
I wouldn't worry about it, so long as he mentions that you work for him or have worked for him. Your references seem like really good sources.

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Re: References question
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2017, 15:16:14 »
For "reference", perhaps,

References question 

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The " Reference" Superthread- Merged 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=12763.550
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As always,  Recruiting is your most trusted source of information.
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Re: References question
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2017, 15:44:51 »
Also, the "recruiting councillor" also said that the trade I chose "boatswain" was to be decided by the 19th of April. Assuming this is a rough estimate and they don't fulfill the jobs (32) can it carry over to May? June? Or should I assume that if I hear nothing from them, my check didn't go good?

Selections continue to be ongoing until the occupation is filled for the year, that might take 1 selection, 2, 3 or 20.  Just because the CAF is recruiting 50 Boatswains for 17/18 doesn't mean they will all be chosen in one selection.  They are selected based on their merit score (a combination of CFAT/TSD, Interview).  So after the 19 April 2017 there might be positions remaining.  I would give your CFRC a call a week or two after that date to find out if there are still openings.
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Re: References question
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2017, 16:11:07 »
Selections continue to be ongoing until the occupation is filled for the year, that might take 1 selection, 2, 3 or 20.  Just because the CAF is recruiting 50 Boatswains for 17/18 doesn't mean they will all be chosen in one selection.  They are selected based on their merit score (a combination of CFAT/TSD, Interview).  So after the 19 April 2017 there might be positions remaining.  I will give your CFRC a call a week or two after that date to find out if there are still openings.

They wrote me back saying I'm getting a final screening (checks) and they'll let me know if I go into selection. Is it true that if you're not selected they'll inform you via email? I'm suppose to be doing my drive school but I put it on hold til I get a response. I'm also looking at a few welding jobs but don't wanna commit until this either sinks or swims.

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Re: References question
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2017, 16:46:50 »
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Please refer to the MEGA Reference Thread that has all these questions asked and answered.
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