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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2017, 10:43:19 »
DHS & FBI compare & contrast American & European anarchist extremists ...
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...  DHS and FBI assess the primary factor explaining the difference in targets between foreign and US anarchist extremists is foreign anarchist extremists’ focus on specific economic and governance issues relative to their geographic area, while US anarchist extremists tend to focus on symbols of capitalism. We assess the likely primary factor explaining foreign anarchist extremists’ greater willingness to use more violent tactics than their US counterparts is that these foreign anarchist extremist movements are often more organized—allowing for more complex attacks—and have a well-established tradition of lethal violence not currently seen in the United States.

The vast majority of US anarchist extremist attacks targeted property likely due to the location’s accessibility and as a symbol of capitalism and globalization. Most foreign anarchist extremist attacks targeted persons likely because of the cohesiveness of the movement and greater emphasis on issues that can be blamed on local, individual targets. US anarchist extremists targeted the banking/finance sector most often, as these perceived soft targets of capitalism are possible to attack with tactics that are non-lethal yet cause significant economic damage and pose significant public safety risks. Foreign anarchist extremists most often targeted government entities, likely due to the emphasis placed on local domestic issues by foreign anarchist extremists and their capabilities to commit attacks against hardened targets.

Arson was the most common violent tactic used by US anarchist extremists—approximately 70 percent (19 of 27) of attacks—while foreign anarchist extremists used arson in only a third of their attacks. US anarchist extremists likely use this tactic based on their intention to cause economic and property damage, which can be accomplished by arson with relatively limited resources and specialized skills. Unlike US anarchist extremists, foreign anarchist extremists frequently used explosives, likely due to their capability to develop more advanced explosive devices as a result of their more organized structure, having a history of using such tactics, and because their targets are hardened.



Social Justice

Social justice issues––specifically opposition to gentrification and opposition to perceived racism and fascism––were the second most common driver of violence for US anarchist extremists, as they accounted for 26 percent (7 of 27) of attacks. Social justice issues accounted for 12 percent of violent foreign anarchist extremist attacks, although these incidents occurred only in Greece and were all against perceived fascism. Although social justice issues can motivate anarchist extremists to violence, they are often a driver for violence if a social justice issue occurs within a location that also has an anarchist extremist presence.

Social justice issues often result in legal protest activities, and historically, in both the United States and abroad, anarchist extremists have been known to co-opt legal protests as a cover to commit violence against their targets. However, a review of data in this study indicated in the seven social-justice motivated violent incidents committed by US anarchist extremists, only one of those incidents exploited otherwise legal protest activity. The reasons for this finding are currently a reporting gap ...
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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2017, 11:21:26 »
Toronto police arrest a home grown terrorist.
Good thing too,  that sign would have caused a lot of death and destruction.

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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2017, 11:58:05 »
Toronto police arrest a home grown terrorist.
Good thing too,  that sign would have caused a lot of death and destruction.

https://m.liveleak.com/view?i=108_1486253318

Let's see.....The guy was a known activist.  He was told not to go down the street that the protest was on.  He was told not to show his sign to incite the protest.  He intentionally went to a location where he pulled out his sign and with the intent to incite the protesters.  He was arrested peacefully and taken away.  The whole matter had nothing to do with the protest, nor Sharia, but of one idiot who was out to make a scene and got arrested.  Actually a case of sensationalizing a non-event, to incite people.  The police handled him in a respectful manner, even in the arrest, and no violence happened.
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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2017, 12:15:51 »
I still find it weird the police can order someone not to walk down a street or hold up a sign which "intices people".  The sign seems hardly vitorlic.    So much for being held accountable for your own actions.

I'm sure I'm just being grumpy and melodramatic though.
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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2017, 13:27:42 »
I still find it weird the police can order someone not to walk down a street or hold up a sign which "intices people".  The sign seems hardly vitorlic.    So much for being held accountable for your own actions.
There have also been cases where people carrying Canadian flags have been told, "don't go there - you'll only make things worse."
Let's see.....The guy was a known activist.  He was told not to go down the street that the protest was on.  He was told not to show his sign to incite the protest.  He intentionally went to a location where he pulled out his sign and with the intent to incite the protesters.  He was arrested peacefully and taken away.  The whole matter had nothing to do with the protest, nor Sharia, but of one idiot who was out to make a scene and got arrested.
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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2017, 13:35:42 »
There have also been cases where people carrying Canadian flags have been told, "don't go there - you'll only make things worse."
Editing to head back on topic but want to say if Canadians are being told not to carry a Canadian flag for safety reasons (in Canada) then there is a big problem.
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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2017, 10:29:57 »
My wife and I were just discussing how sh*thead in Quebec just handed the Islamists a free pass for the next while and tossed legal gun owners under the bus as well. I wish these guys when they get a bright idea of killing someone, they would practice on themselves first.

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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2017, 08:33:05 »
From earlier this week:
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A 29-year-old white supremacist from South Carolina allegedly plotting an attack inspired by Charleston church shooter Dylann Roof was arrested by federal agents in an FBI sting this week.

His plan ran into some other logistical problems along the way: his mother wouldn’t let him use her cellphone, and he had to borrow money from his grandfather to buy a weapon from the undercover FBI agent he thought was a member of the Aryan Nations.

The FBI on Wednesday arrested Benjamin Thomas Samuel McDowell of Conway, South Carolina, in the parking lot of a Hampton Inn in Myrtle Beach after he purchased a disabled Glock and hollow point ammunition from an undercover federal agent for $109 ...
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Conway Man Arrested by the FBI on Federal Gun Charge

Columbia, South Carolina ---- United States Attorney Beth Drake stated today that Benjamin Thomas Samuel McDowell, age 29, of Conway, South Carolina, appeared before a federal magistrate judge this morning in Florence, South Carolina, for an initial appearance following his arrest last night in Myrtle Beach by the FBI. McDowell was arrested for a violation of possession of a firearm and ammunition by a prohibited person, a violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 922(g)(1).

A preliminary hearing and a detention hearing for McDowell have been calendared for Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 2:30pm at the McMillan Federal Building in Florence, South Carolina. McDowell remains in custody. The case is being investigated by the FBI, the Horry County Police Department, and the Myrtle Beach Police Department.

U.S. Attorney Drake stated that all charges are merely accusations and all defendants are presumed innocent until and unless proven guilty.

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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2017, 09:07:46 »
I'll be honest, this thread sorta feels like a tit for tat kind of argument. So with that in mind,  do you think it's at all telling that examples of Religious/Extremist Terrorism:  Non-Muslim edition pop up in ones and twos yet in the last 4 days we see numbers like this from Islamic attacks?

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2 hours ago - Officials in Pakistan say they have killed at least 39 suspected militants in a sweeping security crackdown a day after a massive bombing claimed by Islamic State killed 88 people and injured hundreds more at a crowded shrine
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20 hours ago - At least 48 people have been killed in a car bombing in Baghdad that has been claimed by Isis

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(CNN)Since declaring its caliphate in June 2014, the self-proclaimed Islamic State has conducted or inspired more than 140 terrorist attacks in 29 countries other than Iraq and Syria, where its carnage has taken a much deadlier toll. Those attacks have killed at least 2,043 people and injured thousands more.

Apologize if I'm off the mark with this.

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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2017, 10:36:34 »
I'll be honest, this thread sorta feels like a tit for tat kind of argument.

(...)

Apologize if I'm off the mark with this.
I think we have the jihadi terror discussion pretty well covered (at least 50 pages here, with more on specific incidents here, here and here, to show just a few). 

Just showin' 1)  it's not just one group/creed/affiliation/whatever being nasty, and 2)  trying to let people see how other bad guys do things (remember the Taliban propaganda threads?).
... do you think it's at all telling that examples of Religious/Extremist Terrorism:  Non-Muslim edition pop up in ones and twos ...
Zackly what this kind of thread shows (2 pages vs. how many pages elsewhere on the forums) - not much, but it's not zero, either.
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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2017, 10:46:32 »
Fair enough!  It's important not to concentrate on one and ignore the other for sure.  I think I'll give my lamenting a rest for a while ;)

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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2017, 10:50:26 »
Fair enough!  It's important not to concentrate on one and ignore the other for sure.  I think I'll give my lamenting a rest for a while ;)
That's a pretty soft lament, bud  ;D

Thanks for asking - it's good for me to consider my motivations from time to time, esp. with the kind of passion-fanning stuff we & others sometimes discuss around these parts.
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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2017, 13:49:01 »
Regardless of which flavour terrorist/******* ideology they spring from, I'm glad that they're catching those they can before they act upon their plans.  My gratitude goes out to all those labouring behind the scenes at the various intelligence/security/law enforcement agencies to this end.  I can well imagine the unpaid debt of gratitude I rack up on a daily basis.  :salute:

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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2017, 15:36:31 »
One can argue that M-103 will just create more of these Non-Muslim radical terrorists.
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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2017, 16:34:16 »
One can argue that M-103 will just create more of these Non-Muslim radical terrorists.
I really wish I could discount this completely, but ...  :(
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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #40 on: February 17, 2017, 16:38:28 »
One can argue that M-103 will just create more of these Non-Muslim radical terrorists.

Agreed very much so.