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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2016, 20:15:57 »
K ow what you do, would you bet against it?

If you would let me know, I like easy money

We should start an over/under pool on how many staff officers get deployed.

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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2016, 20:39:24 »
 :trainwreck:

Written all over it.

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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2016, 20:41:13 »
If JOINTEX, MAPLE RESOLVE managed to have a child, with 4CMBG delivering the baby, that baby would be named whatever this "mission" is named.

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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2016, 20:54:14 »
Well, they did say we're taking a leadership role, so I suspect a 10:1 tail to tooth ratio...

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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2016, 20:54:42 »
We should start an over/under pool on how many staff officers get deployed.

Ya I see Somalia level staff officer deployment :-/  All the new guys need a gong after all :-/


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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2016, 20:55:14 »
Don't forget the "Tail".  How much Service Support will be required?
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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2016, 20:59:47 »
Ya I see Somalia level staff officer deployment :-/  All the new guys need a gong after all :-/

Only took 1.5 pages to mention medals (not that you care), but guaranteed that's the first thing someone thinks of at NDHQ.

How much service support required? 6:1 ratio, but troops still have to buy their own boots, slings and fighting rigs.

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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2016, 21:30:02 »
The ones who are going to suffer are the troops away from their family for 6 months eating shitty food, crammed in shitty living conditions and paraded around in dog and pony shows. The "I just want to deploy!" crowd will get tired of the 14 hour forced bus trips and maple resolve- Europe training in +/- 3 weeks.   March 20kms. The general didn't get to fly over and see you, march another 20km so he can.

We should deploy to smash ISIS and assholes murdering their way across Africa.

If I'm going to be given food with animal and insect parts sticking out (like a rats foot) then I at least want to be making a difference.
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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2016, 21:33:57 »
Will the Winnipeg Grenadiers be reactivated for this tasking? :whistle:

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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2016, 21:37:41 »
The ones who are going to suffer are the troops away from their family for 6 months eating shitty food, crammed in shitty living conditions and paraded around in dog and pony shows. The "I just want to deploy!" crowd will get tired of the 14 hour forced bus trips and maple resolve- Europe training in +/- 3 weeks.   March 20kms. The general didn't get to fly over and see you, march another 20km so he can.

We should deploy to smash ISIS and assholes murdering their way across Africa.

If I'm going to be given food with animal and insect parts sticking out (like a rats foot) then I at least want to be making a difference.

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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2016, 22:12:48 »
The ones who are going to suffer are the troops away from their family for 6 months eating shitty food, crammed in shitty living conditions and paraded around in dog and pony shows. The "I just want to deploy!" crowd will get tired of the 14 hour forced bus trips and maple resolve- Europe training in +/- 3 weeks.   March 20kms. The general didn't get to fly over and see you, march another 20km so he can.

We should deploy to smash ISIS and assholes murdering their way across Africa.

If I'm going to be given food with animal and insect parts sticking out (like a rats foot) then I at least want to be making a difference.
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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2016, 22:26:45 »
beggars can't be choosers.

If you joined at 18 you wouldn't have missed the cool tours.  8)

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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2016, 22:31:49 »
If you joined at 18 you wouldn't have missed the cool tours.  8)

Or you would have been in a position where your boss said you were too important to let deploy, and would have been stuck back in Canada anyways.
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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2016, 22:34:35 »
Or you would have been in a position where your boss said you were too important to let deploy, and would have been stuck back in Canada anyways.

Not with Sigs at a Brigade. If you had a heartbeat and could spell Signals, you went.

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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2016, 22:47:33 »
Not with Sigs at a Brigade. If you had a heartbeat and could spell Signals, you went.

Got to 1 Sigs in 07. Missed out on 1-08, 5-09, 3-09, and gave up hope.

Got posted to Svc Bn and thrown on MTTF out of the blue. The tours haven't stopped since then.
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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #40 on: June 30, 2016, 22:53:43 »
Got to 1 Sigs in 07. Missed out on 1-08, 5-09, 3-09, and gave up hope.

Got posted to Svc Bn and thrown on MTTF out of the blue. The tours haven't stopped since then.

You unfortunately got screwed. There's Sigs guys with 4 bars on their GCS-SWA. You're in a good spot now, any larger sustained mission will have those MT dets rolling. Officers love DWAN.

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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #41 on: June 30, 2016, 23:28:14 »
If you joined at 18 you wouldn't have missed the cool tours.  8)
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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #42 on: June 30, 2016, 23:49:02 »
didn't want to die a virgin.

Then you should have tried harder to get laid

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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2016, 00:45:32 »
Will the Winnipeg Grenadiers be reactivated for this tasking? :whistle:

That was supposed to OUR secret! But I get the historical link.....
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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2016, 02:11:25 »
Ya I see Somalia level staff officer deployment :-/  All the new guys need a gong after all :-/

Hopefully this turns out better than that mission...

Serious question though, being, "What is the point of this mission"? We're sending a basically notional amount of soldiers with no/little equipment to "protect" NATO states with must larger armies and better equipment? We're also sending them to defend against a country with little to no ability to project force.

We pulled the CF-18's that we "whipped out" to attack ISIS, a real enemy, but can deploy troops to defend larger countries against a realistically non-existent threat?

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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2016, 03:27:41 »
I sincerely hope that they mean the Bn headquarters Coy, and not some excuse to employ 1 Can Div HQ.... then again, we've never been good with scaling command oversight to the actual amount of troops on the ground.

I'm sure there is a 300 slide powerpoint somewhere followed by a spreadsheet that took 400 hours to make detailing why there will be more tail than tooth.   ;D
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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2016, 03:40:55 »
Hopefully this turns out better than that mission...

Serious question though, being, "What is the point of this mission"? We're sending a basically notional amount of soldiers with no/little equipment to "protect" NATO states with must larger armies and better equipment? We're also sending them to defend against a country with little to no ability to project force.

We pulled the CF-18's that we "whipped out" to attack ISIS, a real enemy, but can deploy troops to defend larger countries against a realistically non-existent threat?

Didn`t you hear?  We are not at war with ISIS!

Maybe the point of the mission is to 'be seen to be doing something', which may be the only thing to actually do.  Making a stance, all that stuff.

Wonder how badly the infrastructure in places like Lahr has faired out the past few decades.  Might be soon putting a fresh coat of paint on some of it?
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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #47 on: July 01, 2016, 06:49:40 »
We pulled the CF-18's that we "whipped out" to attack ISIS, a real enemy, but can deploy troops to defend larger countries against a realistically non-existent threat?
Tell that to the Ukrainians, the Moldovans and the Georgians - or the Baltics, for that matter, where Russia appears to STILL be trying to sanction what they're considering former Soviet deserters.

Meanwhile, a bit of initial RUS media reaction ...

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Re: Canada to send troops to Latvia for new NATO brigade
« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2016, 07:06:41 »
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