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Conservatives in the News
« on: January 19, 2016, 12:29:20 »
Just to keep track of individuals (vs. the general political scene/climate) ...

This, from the Ottawa Citizen:
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The Hull Hospital confirmed Tuesday that Sen. Patrick Brazeau is recovering from surgery after being injured in an incident at his rural Outaouais home Monday evening.

The hospital says Brazeau’s life is not in danger.

“I can confirm that Sen. Brazeau is at the Hull Hospital and that he underwent surgery,” said hospital spokeswoman Geneviève Côté.

He arrived at the hospital about 1 a.m. Tuesday, she said.

“Shortly after that he underwent surgery. It went well.”

Late Tuesday morning she said he was out of danger, though he is staying in hospital “for a certain time” to recover.

She wouldn’t say what kind of surgery the senator had, or why he needed it.

So far there are few details about the incident itself.

The Sûreté du Québec confirmed its officers went to Brazeau’s home in the community of Mayo, a little northeast of Buckingham, about 10 p.m. Monday ...
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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2016, 06:24:47 »
MP Cheryl Gallant (Renfrew — Nipissing — Pembroke) has pulled some odd ones before (check here, here and here), but really?
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The slaying of Cpl. Nathan Cirillo while he stood guard at the National War Memorial in Ottawa galvanized the country, but now a Conservative MP is using his death to peddle Easter hams in a bizarre fundraising campaign.

Cheryl Gallant, who represents the Ottawa Valley riding of Renfrew-Nipissing-Pembroke, made the fundraising pitch in a March 2 email to supporters with the all-caps subject line TERRORISTS IN OUR MIDST.

The email is an assault on Liberal immigration policies, but it also includes a picture of Cirillo in military dress with the caption, "A Hero Forever In Our Hearts."

The text links the fast-tracking of Canadian citizenship for refugees and migrants to the reversal of a bill that revoked citizenship for dual citizens convicted of terrorist acts.

"Why do migrants need to be protected from losing newly granted Canadian citizenship if they are convicted of committing a terrorist act?" the email asks. "Is the Liberal Party afraid of alienating tens of thousands of new votes with the threat of deportation if any are convicted of terrorist activity?"

The email is punctuated with photos of Cirillo's killer and Parliament Hill attacker Michael Zehaf-Bibeau and Toronto 18 bomb plotter Zakaria Amara.

At the bottom of the email a red "Order Now" button leads to an Easter fundraising campaign where donors are told they will be rewarded with a ham, though the website cautions the ham is only available to residents of Renfrew-Nipissing-Pembroke ...
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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2016, 07:26:09 »
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That sums up the feeling of many over the years about this MP.  She as had excellent advisers over the years from members of the retired CAF community in the Pembroke/Petawawa area, but their advice has often been overlooked/overturned by her or her civilian advisers. 

One of the factors working in keeping her in Parliament is the lack of a better choice of candidates from the other Parties in the area.
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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2016, 09:55:45 »
She as had excellent advisers over the years from members of the retired CAF community in the Pembroke/Petawawa area, but their advice has often been overlooked/overturned by her or her civilian advisers. 
It IS ironic, seeing this in an MP with no shortage of military constituents, both current and retired, in her backyard ...
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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2016, 05:31:07 »
Today appears to be the day ...
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Senator Mike Duffy will finally find out his fate on Thursday as one of the country’s most high-profile political trials comes to a close.

Ontario Court Justice Charles Vaillancourt is set to rule on whether Mr. Duffy is guilty or acquitted on some or all of the 31 charges of fraud, breach of trust and bribery he faces in relation to his expenses as a Conservative senator appointed by former prime minister Stephen Harper’s government.

If convicted, Mr. Duffy faces up to 14 years in prison.

The ruling will be the first in a series of Senate expense cases making their way through the justice system, with possible implications for other senators now facing trials or criminal investigations.

It will also serve as the decisive moment in a trial that involved some of the most powerful members of Mr. Harper’s Prime Minister’s Office, including former chief of staff Nigel Wright, who gave Mr. Duffy $90,000 to pay off his expenses – and whom the senator is accused of bribing ...
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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2016, 17:18:59 »
Again ? ? ?
It isn't just Mr Fantino disrespecting Veterans, it includes other members of the House as well.

Those posted to, or have having been posted to, Petawawa know the Conservative MP, Cheryl Gallant.  Well, she has just stuck her foot in her mouth again, in comments about Veterans.  Here is a screen shot of what a friend posted on her FB page; before someone, her or one of her minions, took down--a reasonable post removed:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152569623259972&set=gm.723365947696492&type=1&theater
She has done it again.  Conservative MP Cheryl Gallant has once again proven to be an embarrassment to the Canadian Government and the electorate who have elected her.
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MP GALLANT LEAVES NATO DOCUMENTS BEHIND IN AIRPORT ...

Reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act from the Globe and Mail:

http://renfrewtoday.ca/default.asp?pid=1133610&wireid=01035_ARP_GallantPapers1web_080904
How does this woman survive, or keep getting re-elected - her latest, from her web page and a recent statement in the House of Commons - also attached in case the link doesn't work for you ...
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... Only liberals would sell off our Chinook Helicopters before a replacement, which was supposed to be the EH-101 helicopter, was in place. Without the strategic lift helicopters cancelled by the liberals, soldiers died unnecessarily on the bomb-laden roads of Afghanistan. The question the Trudeau liberals refuse to answer is ‘How many must die because they delayed the purchase of search and rescue helicopters?’ ...
A reminder:  the Chinooks were sold to the Dutch in 1991, when this guy was PM:

 :salute: MP Gallant  :facepalm:
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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2016, 17:43:03 »
Boy, time has not been kind to her.  She really looks like a man now...

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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2016, 19:33:21 »
The good lord said "come forth for brains", and she came fifth.
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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2016, 07:04:48 »
At least ONE case is done, even if the other continues ...
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The Crown will not appeal last month’s acquittal on election finance charges of a former Conservative MP’s cousin.

David Del Mastro was found not guilty by a court in Brampton, Ont., on charges that he had exceeded donation limits by funnelling contributions to his cousin Dean Del Mastro’s 2008 campaign through his Mississauga-based electrical contracting company.

The Crown introduced evidence at trial showing 22 donations of $1,000 made to the Del Mastro campaign by employees of Deltro Electric, who all later received cheques from the company in the amount of $1,050.

(...)

 The Public Prosecution Service of Canada tells CTV News that it will not appeal either the decision to exclude evidence or the not-guilty verdict.

Meanwhile, Dean Del Mastro, the former Peterborough MP and one-time parliamentary secretary to prime minister Stephen Harper, is currently free on bail pending another appeal of his 2014 conviction on unrelated Elections Act offences. He has served a total of seven days of his 30-day jail sentence ...
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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2016, 11:35:57 »
And off into the sunset, not surprisingly in a low-key way?
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At the end of a long hallway in Parliament's centre block, one office is crowded with stacks of boxes, roll after roll of packing tape and a few of the souvenirs from a decades-long political career.

The MP for Calgary Heritage — better known as former prime minister Stephen Harper — may have cast his very last House of Commons vote (just over a week ago). Perhaps fittingly, according to the parliamentary website, it was to oppose the Liberal budget.

As CBC News reported in May, Harper is expected to resign his seat before Parliament resumes next fall.

The former prime minister has remained all but silent since his Conservative party lost power in the last election, so the eventual announcement of his departure was never expected to come with much fanfare on Harper's part regardless.

Beyond the stacks of boxes, however, there is at least one more sign of his imminent exit.

For $200, friends and party faithful are invited to join Harper at his "final Calgary Conservative Stampede BBQ" in July.

The event is hosted by Harper's riding association. President Hal Anderson said the decision to identify it as final was a mutual agreement between Harper and the riding association ...
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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2016, 15:26:20 »
Mike Duffy:  No, I'm NOT paying that $ back -- shared under the Fair Dealings provisions of the Copyright Act, RSC 1985 ...
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Sen. Mike Duffy is saying No to a request from the Senate to repay about $17,000 in disputed expense claims detailed at his criminal trial.

Duffy’s lawyer writes to the Senate this week that the senator won’t repay seven of his claims totalling $16,955 because they were deemed “appropriate” by the Ontario judge who acquitted Duffy of 31 criminal charges in April.

Duffy was told last month that the Senate was taking a second look at expenses revealed at his trial that range from $10,000 for a personal trainer to $8 for personal photos.

The Senate gave Duffy the option of taking the dispute to arbitration in front of former Supreme Court justice Ian Binnie who would decide if the expenses were legitimate and how much Duffy would have to repay.

Duffy’s lawyer Donald Bayne writes that the senator isn’t interested in arbitration because he does not want to “legitimize” a process that is “an improper collateral attack” on the his acquittal.

The decision means the Senate committee in charge of policing spending will soon withhold the money from Duffy’s salary so the Senate can recoup the cash it believes Duffy shouldn’t have been allowed to claim.
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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2016, 10:04:04 »
Standby for by-election ...
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Former Progressive Conservative leader Tim Hudak will resign his seat in the legislature next month and become CEO of the Ontario Real Estate Association.

Hudak, who was first elected in 1995 at the age of 27, says after 21 years in provincial politics it's time to make a change, so he'll step down from his Niagara West-Glanbrook seat on Sept. 16.

Hudak had served in the cabinet of Mike Harris and was elected PC leader in 2009, but failed to defeat the Liberal government in the 2011 and 2014 elections.

His wife, Deb Hutton, was a senior adviser to Harris when the two met and married.

Hudak came under widespread criticism, even from many Conservatives, in 2014 when he promised to fire 100,000 public sector workers if the Tories got elected, an issue many blamed for their defeat.

He emerged as a stronger MPP after stepping down as leader following the 2014 defeat, championing the sharing economy and more liberalized liquor laws, but never seemed to see eye-to-eye with new PC Leader Patrick Brown.

The 49-year-old Hudak has also been hosting a radio talk show on weekends that is syndicated in several Ontario cities.

"These past 21 years have been tremendously rewarding, and I will miss my colleagues in all three parties," Hudak said in a release Tuesday. "I want to thank all of them, past and present, for their friendship, leadership and advice." ...
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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2016, 20:41:08 »
Kenney's Alberta run could be over before it even begins?

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A Tory MLA says Jason Kenney doesn’t meet the standards laid out by the Progressive Conservative party for leadership candidates and could face disqualification from the race.

On the weekend, the PC party board approved the rules for the leadership campaign, which officially begins on Oct. 1 and will culminate in a delegated convention next March.

Among its decisions, the board adopted a provision that was in place in the party’s 2014 leadership race, which stipulates that candidates “avoid causing harm or disrepute” to the PC party and its brand “through any detrimental action or conduct.”

Kenney, the Conservative MP who is the only declared candidate in the race, is campaigning on a platform of uniting the provincial right by bringing together the PC and Wildrose parties in a new entity, potentially called the Conservative Party of Alberta.


Sandra Jansen, the PC MLA for Calgary-North West and a potential leadership contender herself, said Monday the party rules raise a major question about Kenney’s campaign.

“In my opinion, Jason Kenney is clearly intent on dismantling the party and so I believe that he certainly doesn’t fit the guidelines. But that’s not my call to make,” said Jansen, who has been an outspoken critic of Kenney.

Jansen is one of several candidates mulling a potential bid for the leadership of the Tories, who governed Alberta for more than four decades before being upset by the NDP in the 2015 election. PC MLA Richard Starke, Edmonton city councillor Michael Oshry and Calgary lawyer Doug Schweitzer number among the possible contestants.

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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2016, 22:12:04 »
Kenney's Alberta run could be over before it even begins?

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a most welcome development if it comes to pass.
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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2016, 22:16:42 »
a most welcome development if it comes to pass.

Afraid a stronger Tory party out west will return the Liberals to 0 seats they held in 2011?

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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2016, 22:41:14 »
Afraid a stronger Tory party out west will return the Liberals to 0 seats they held in 2011?
God no.

I want the wildrose and Brian Jean to get a shot at governing. Polls are useless at this stage of the game but they are ahead.

I personally would like to see a pure right wing government in Canada, not a old boys club that the PCs and any PC wildrose merger would represent.
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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2016, 11:44:52 »
Kenney's Alberta run could be over before it even begins?

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The same PC MLA who urged voters to vote Liberal in the last Federal election?  The grassroots is trying to force her out of her own party. 
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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2016, 15:46:16 »
I think she's just trying to sully his name in advance of her own run at the leadership. I am challenged to understand how his stated goal of returning the PC party to government is "causing harm or disrepute". As to uniting the WR and PC, well the federal Liberals coasted through several elections on the back of a divided right. Surely Albertans don't want the NDP to have the same opportunity?
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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2016, 16:42:58 »
I think she's just trying to sully his name in advance of her own run at the leadership. I am challenged to understand how his stated goal of returning the PC party to government is "causing harm or disrepute". As to uniting the WR and PC, well the federal Liberals coasted through several elections on the back of a divided right. Surely Albertans don't want the NDP to have the same opportunity?
same could be said about the conservative from 2006 onwards. It's better to not say that because it's not that cut and dry.

Back to alberta though,  it's illegal to unite parties. Can't merge assets or money. So there are two ways to unite the right. One party ceases to be and joins the other right wing party. Wildrose is bigger,  has more money, has more seats. They won't fold. Brian Jean won't step down.

The other way is to fold both parties and make a new party. Starting from scratch too, because the new party wouldn't have access to the assets and money of the two defunct parties. I believe this is the path Kenney is taking and if you run for leadership promising to dismantle your own party I can see where that falls under causing harm or disrepute.
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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2016, 20:04:49 »
And here's why there are third parties to complain to about your ATIP request results -- shared under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act (R.S.C., 1985, c. C-42) ... ...
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A document obtained under access-to-information laws refutes former Conservative cabinet minister Julian Fantino's claim that an email at the heart of an official languages complaint had been doctored.

In 2013, an email from Fantino's office asked that all correspondence signed by the minister be sent in English, even if the addressee was French-speaking.

"I would like to reiterate that ALL correspondence signed by the minister be sent in English," said the email, dated Feb. 14 of that year.

"In special cases, ie (Haitian Prime Minister Laurent) Lamothe, then it makes sense, but for example, for the Ethiopia trip thank you letters to staff, we noted twice that we had some in FR (French). I understand that we know the recipients' first language is French however the minister can write in English if he chooses to do so. That is also in line with the OL (Official languages) act."

The Canadian Press wrote about the email at the time after receiving a copy from a source.

That prompted Fantino, the then-international co-operation minister, to state in a letter sent to various media that the email had been doctored.

"The source of these allegations has either altered documentation before giving it to the reporter, or the reporter has selectively edited what they were given," he said.

Fantino claimed concluding words to the email — "for review" — had been removed.

The extra words would have meant Fantino just wanted to approve the emails in English without necessarily sending them only in English, even to francophones.

A request to Fantino's office at the time for a copy of what he claimed was the original email was turned down for privacy reasons.

In March 2014, when the Conservatives were still in power, a completely blacked-out version was obtained from the Canadian International Development Agency.

In explaining the redacted version, the department invoked articles in the access-to-information law allowing for passages in a document to be edited out, notably if it contains recommendations from a federal institution or minister.

The Canadian Press then filed an access-to-information request with the Office of the Information Commissioner of Canada to obtain a copy of the email. The communication is identical to the one obtained from the source in 2013.

Fantino did not return calls for an interview request for this story.

The 2013 email prompted NDP MP Yvon Godin to file a complaint with Official Languages Commissioner Graham Fraser.

"The complaint was deemed to be well-founded and (it was determined) there had been a breach of the official languages (act)," * said Robin Cantin, a spokesman for the Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages.

Cantin said the official languages office did a follow-up in October 2015.

"We then recommended that the instructions for ministerial correspondence be reviewed to ensure that language preference of the addressee was fully taken into account," he said.

Fantino, a former Toronto police chief, was first elected to the Commons in 2010. Following his stint as international co-operation minister, he was named veterans affairs minister before being stripped of the portfolio in 2015 after being criticized for his performance.

He lost his seat in the 2015 election.
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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2016, 20:29:33 »
Fantino is one MP in particular I am very pleased is no longer an MP.  What an O2 thief.

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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2016, 06:48:48 »
And here's why there are third parties to complain to about your ATIP request results -- shared under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act (R.S.C., 1985, c. C-42) ... ...* - That means the law was broken.

Harper made some very poor HR choices, this was one of them.  Caledonia's favourite cop was not high on the list of possible conservative candidates given his love of serving the OLP. 
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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2016, 13:37:49 »
Harper made some very poor HR choices ...
Another example ...
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An Ontario Court judge has imposed $50,000 in fines on Bruce Carson, a former Stephen Harper confidant convicted of illegal lobbying.

Although Carson’s lawyer, Patrick McCann, argued that his client was on the verge of bankruptcy and unable to pay, Ontario Court Justice Catherine Kehoe said Carson remains employable, calling the fine a necessary deterrent to others.

The Crown had asked for a $50,000 penalty.

Carson was found guilty in September on three counts under the Lobbying Act over work he did on a national energy strategy while director of the Canada School of Energy and Environment and later as the vice-chair of the Energy Policy Institute of Canada.

The judge determined he had contact with ministers and deputy ministers at Industry Canada and Environment Canada, as well as the Prime Minister’s Office and the Privy Council Office, while he was employed at the institute even though he was under a five-year prohibition from lobbying public office holders because he had worked in the PMO until February 2009.

The court was told that, between 2009 and 2011, Carson was paid about $600,000 for his lobbying work.

There have only been two previous convictions under the Lobbying Act, which resulted in fines of $7,500 and $20,000, Crown prosecutor Robert Zsigo told the judge.

In her sentencing ruling, Kehoe said the gravity of the offence could not be more serious and that Carson had decided to simply ignore the prohibitions against lobbying.

"It is necessary to impose a significant fine to deter Mr. Carson and others who would engage in lobbying and ignore the law, which goes to the heart of the integrity of government and public trust of government," she wrote ...
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Patrick Brown's office misled the Toronto Star about compensation to a former MPP who quit his seat for the Progressive Conservative leader, imposing a gag order at a time when the secret contract could make the Tories look bad, internal emails show.

Documents obtained by the Star reveal Conservative officials were scrambling after Garfield Dunlop stepped down in Simcoe North so the new PC leader could run in a byelection on Sept. 3, 2015.

Mindful the governing Liberals were under investigation for allegations of bribery, senior party officials were emailing about how to keep under wraps potentially embarrassing details of how the Tories compensated Dunlop.

In one email, a key Brown aide overruled a lawyer from the party who suggested full disclosure, telling him that she had already denied any payments and intended to feign ignorance if asked again.

She also ordered all other staff and PC activists to abide by her edict.

The circumstances surrounding Dunlop's departure are in the headlines again because of the Sudbury byelection bribery charges against Patricia Sorbara, Premier Kathleen Wynne's former deputy chief of staff.

When the Tories hammer the Liberals on the Sorbara matter in the legislature's daily question period, the government counters by pointing to how the PC leader secured his Orillia-area seat.

Last year, Brown publicly said Dunlop — who earned $129,000 in 2014 as an MPP and vice-chair of a legislative committee — was serving as his part-time volunteer education adviser and received no compensation for giving up the riding.

In an emailed statement Monday, his office reiterated that "no employment arrangements were either promised or offered at the time, nor at any time before he resigned his seat on Aug. 1, 2015, nor at any time before the byelection was held on Sept. 3, 2015." ...
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« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2016, 10:27:33 »
I think one of the issues is that Government and Business work very differently and for good reason. In business it's expected to build a relationship with your client, doing things for them, that's how you build a business. In government it is all very rigid and process and you can't have that same client relationship. I seen a lot of business people fail to make that leap or understand the differences and why they are different.   

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« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2017, 04:22:40 »
And this appears to be still dragging on ...
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Almost a full year after Sen. Mike Duffy was acquitted on 31 charges of fraud, bribery and breach of trust, the man who paid him $90,000 remains under investigation by the federal ethics watchdog.

Ethics commissioner Mary Dawson has revealed that she continues to examine the conduct of Nigel Wright, former prime minister Stephen Harper's one-time chief of staff.

Wright personally paid Duffy $90,000 to enable the senator to reimburse the Senate for his disputed living expense claims.

Dawson initiated an investigation into Wright's conduct in May 2013, but suspended it a month later once an RCMP investigation was begun.

New Democrat MP Charlie Angus, who had urged Dawson to investigate Wright, says the ethics watchdog recently informed him that she resumed her investigation last May after the Crown decided not to appeal Duffy's acquittal.

Her investigation is ongoing and Dawson told Angus her final report on the matter will be made public ...
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Harper made some very poor HR choices ...
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Conservative Yukon Senator Daniel Lang and his policy adviser are facing allegations of workplace harassment, multiple senior Senate sources tell CBC News.

After a complaint about his behaviour earlier this year, an internal investigation was launched by Senate officials into the senator's treatment of a parliamentary staffer.

The Senate would not confirm the review, or identify the nature of the complaint.

"The integrity of any complaint-based human resources process is dependent on confidentiality being maintained. For this reason, the Senate does not disclose information of this nature," Senate spokesperson Jacqui Delaney said.

This is the second complaint against Lang and his policy adviser, Naresh Raghubeer. The first complainant withdrew the accusation after quietly being transferred to another job on Parliament Hill, CBC News has learned.

Senate officials privately describe the complaints as being about bullying and intimidation, including screaming and belittling in front of other senators and staff.

The sources spoke to CBC on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter with reporters and/or they feared retribution from their superiors.

Lang, appointed by former prime minister Stephen Harper in 2009, declined requests for an interview but Raghubeer provided a statement on the senator's behalf.

"I don't know where you heard this, but neither my office nor I are currently subject to any administrative review," the senator said in the statement ...
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« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2017, 19:46:34 »
Clearly he's guilty before the investigation is complete.

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Canada’s former public safety minister has had his wrist slapped by the federal ethics commissioner for violating conflict of interest rules — and a democracy watchdog wants the Canadian Judicial Council to review the matter.

Vic Toews, who is now a judge in Manitoba, violated the Conflict of Interest Act twice in the months following his departure from politics in 2013 by working for two First Nations with which he had direct dealings during his time in office.

Ethics Commissioner Mary Dawson released her report Friday, two years after initial complaints were made about Toews’ post-cabinet activities.

The 41-page report finds Toews was hired to do lobbying and consulting work on behalf of two First Nations in Manitoba in the months after he left office. The contracts violated two different aspects of the Conflict of Interest Act ...
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On Senator Don Meredith, Senate Ethics Officer says ....
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... As set out above, I have concluded that Senator Meredith breached subsections 7.1(1) and 7.1(2) of the Code in the circumstances surrounding the relationship he had with a teenager, Ms. M.

Where I have made a finding that a Senator has breached his or her obligations under the Code, as I have here, subsection 48(14) of the Code requires me to indicate whether remedial measures to my satisfaction have been agreed to by the Senator, whether the Senator did not agree to remedial measures that would have been to my satisfaction and what those measures were, or whether remedial measures were either not necessary or not available.

Following Senator Meredith’s first interview, his counsel indicated to me that he was interested in exploring remedial measures to address Senator Meredith’s conduct. I explained to counsel that I did not see how remedial measures could be appropriate if I accepted the facts as described by Ms. M, but that I remained open to receiving and considering submissions on this issue. I again invited submissions from Senator Meredith on this issue when I provided him the partial draft of this review for his comment.

In a letter dated March 7, 2017 (copy attached) Senator Meredith proposed remedial measures. I have concluded that while they may have some salutary effects and may help prevent further breaches of this nature by Senator Meredith, the remedial measures he has proposed do not remedy the harm that his actions have caused to the office of Senator and the institution of the Senate. Consideration of this issue has led me to the further conclusion that for the purposes of subsection 48(14), remedial measures are not available in relation to the kinds of breaches of the Code engaged in by Senator Meredith.
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« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2017, 17:35:55 »
Someone who makes Duffy look like a paragon of virtue.  I hope they kick the chickenhawk out.

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« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2017, 20:03:57 »
Someone who makes Duffy look like a paragon of virtue. 
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Someone who makes Duffy look like a paragon of virtue.  I hope they kick the chickenhawk out.
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The Senate was poised to vote as early as Wednesday on a Senate ethics committee report, which last week concluded that Meredith is unfit to serve as a senator and recommended that the upper house take the unprecedented step of expelling him.

But in a statement today, Meredith says he recognizes that the Senate is more important than his "moral failings." ...
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« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2017, 20:19:49 »
Not quite as satisfying as their version of a dishonourable discharge, but it will do.  Too bad they couldn't forfeit his pension on him as he leaves.  With any luck the missus will take him to the mat instead.

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Re: Conservatives in the News
« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2017, 03:18:36 »
If it's egregious enough to get booted from the Senate, does it not stand to reason that he broke the law?

Why has he not been charged?

If what he did is not considered illegal and he's not charged, he shouldn't have been punted.
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« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2017, 03:25:29 »
If it's egregious enough to get booted from the Senate, does it not stand to reason that he broke the law?

Why has he not been charged?

If what he did is not considered illegal and he's not charged, he shouldn't have been punted.
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Surely you're not suggesting a perfect overlap between morality and legality? A lot of things can be morally or ethically questionable or even disgusting, yet aren't quite illegal. I have no problem with the senate punting someone who appears to have a sexually predatory streak aimed at young girls. His conduct brings the upper house into disrepute in the eyes of the public. That should suffice. After all, we don't get to vote him out.
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« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2017, 06:59:17 »
If he, as is alleged, exploited a position of power for sexual purposes with someone under 18, then he has committed an offense that should be condemned through the judicial system.
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« Reply #37 on: May 10, 2017, 08:35:42 »
After all, we don't get to vote him out.

We didn't even get a chance to vote him in!  :nod:

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« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2017, 17:42:52 »
The only disqualifying provision related to behavior - "31(4) If he is attainted of Treason or convicted of Felony or of any infamous Crime;"

Clearly he was not convicted of a crime.

There is one other provision that makes it a matter for the Senate to decide - "33. If any Question arises respecting the Qualification of a Senator or a Vacancy in the Senate the same shall be heard and determined by the Senate."

I do have a suspicion that the Supreme Court would step in to prevent the Senate from calling an apple an orange to justify their action.

If legally boning a 16 year old is so awful, why are 12 year olds legally allowed to have sex under the Criminal Code.  Seems to be a bit of a disconnect.  It was only a few years ago the age of consent was raised from 14 and Harper had a serious fight to get it through Parliament.

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« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2017, 21:33:45 »
The only disqualifying provision related to behavior - "31(4) If he is attainted of Treason or convicted of Felony or of any infamous Crime;"

Clearly he was not convicted of a crime.

There is one other provision that makes it a matter for the Senate to decide - "33. If any Question arises respecting the Qualification of a Senator or a Vacancy in the Senate the same shall be heard and determined by the Senate."

I do have a suspicion that the Supreme Court would step in to prevent the Senate from calling an apple an orange to justify their action.

If legally boning a 16 year old is so awful, why are 12 year olds legally allowed to have sex under the Criminal Code.  Seems to be a bit of a disconnect.  It was only a few years ago the age of consent was raised from 14 and Harper had a serious fight to get it through Parliament.

If you're cool with him being a chickenhawk,  that's up to you.  I don't think it's behaviour I want to see by someone on the Hill.

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« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2017, 21:51:42 »
If you're cool with him being a chickenhawk,  that's up to you.  I don't think it's behaviour I want to see by someone on the Hill.

I don't think he's justifying the behaviour, only stating that the Senate didn't have a legally strong leg to stand on.

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« Reply #41 on: May 15, 2017, 21:55:15 »
I don't think he's justifying the behaviour, only stating that the Senate didn't have a legally strong leg to stand on.

He was in a position of authority as a religious leader.  So it's illegal if the other individual is under 18 which, it is alleged, occurred on one occasion.
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« Reply #42 on: May 15, 2017, 22:16:19 »
He was in a position of authority as a religious leader.  So it's illegal if the other individual is under 18 which, it is alleged, occurred on one occasion.

Clearly not enough evidence to pursue charges, or the Ottawa Police would have done so.

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« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2017, 07:12:51 »
Clearly not enough evidence to pursue charges, or the Ottawa Police would have done so.
Is every administrative action in the CF supported by, say, criminal charges?  After all, if behaviour doesn't meet the test of criminal prosecution, it must be OK, right?  ;)
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« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2017, 07:42:47 »
Is every administrative action in the CF supported by, say, criminal charges?  After all, if behaviour doesn't meet the test of criminal prosecution, it must be OK, right?  ;)
What's the CAFs highest administrative action? It's release. Just like the CAF, he pulled pin before the hammer fell.

We're now in the realm of arguing morality vs legality in laws, completely off topic. I personally think the guy was a dirtbag, but far more legally savvy people than me stated with the current laws, it was not criminal or they couldn't get enough evidence to have a reasonable expectation of conviction.

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« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2017, 09:10:04 »
Clearly not enough evidence to pursue charges, or the Ottawa Police would have done so.

My understanding is that the investigation was done by the Senate; I've seen nothing to indicate that OPS was involved.
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« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2017, 11:22:45 »
What's the CAFs highest administrative action? It's release. Just like the CAF, he pulled pin before the hammer fell.
And we've also seen cases of due process chasing and catching someone already out the door, too.  It'll be interesting to see what unfolds with this guy ...
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« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2017, 21:24:56 »
My understanding is that the investigation was done by the Senate; I've seen nothing to indicate that OPS was involved.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/04/04/sen-don-meredith-appears-at-closed-door-ethics-committee-meeting.html

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An investigation into Meredith’s behaviour began after the Star reported in the summer of 2015 on his two-year affair with a teenage girl. After an Ottawa police probe wrapped up without laying charges, the Senate’s ethics officer published a report on March 9 of this year, concluding that Meredith used his job in the red chamber to lure the girl into a sexual affair.

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« Reply #49 on: May 17, 2017, 07:34:20 »
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/04/04/sen-don-meredith-appears-at-closed-door-ethics-committee-meeting.html
Thanks for that reminder. 

In spite of the OPS decision, like with military folks who sometimes escape charges but get dinged via admin measures, or a cop escaping criminal charges but facing admin or Police Act actions, I'm OK with a different standard being applied to this guy's behaviour as a Senator.  Like with the military & cops, we expect better.
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« Reply #50 on: May 17, 2017, 22:30:19 »
In spite of the OPS decision, like with military folks who sometimes escape charges but get dinged via admin measures, or a cop escaping criminal charges but facing admin or Police Act actions, I'm OK with a different standard being applied to this guy's behaviour as a Senator.  Like with the military & cops, we expect better.

100% agree, and I feel this situation is akin to a CAF member not renewing his/her TOS and releasing prior to being served a notice of intent to release (which would only happen if the timing lined up in the CAF case). I would have liked to have seen him called to account for his actions on the Senate Ethics committee, but I believe justice is served by removing a cancer from our government.

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« Reply #51 on: May 18, 2017, 06:47:53 »
... removing a cancer from our government.
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« Reply #52 on: May 20, 2017, 10:09:44 »
If he, as is alleged, exploited a position of power for sexual purposes with someone under 18, then he has committed an offense that should be condemned through the judicial system.

Information online says he met her outside his duties as a pastor and their is no information that he served as her pastor.

I assume that the only offence he could be accused of committing is:

"153(1.2) A judge may infer that a person is in a relationship with a young person that is exploitative of the young person from the nature and circumstances of the relationship, including

    (a) the age of the young person;

    (b) the age difference between the person and the young person;

    (c) the evolution of the relationship; and

    (d) the degree of control or influence by the person over the young person.

Definition of young person

(2) In this section, young person means a person 16 years of age or more but under the age of eighteen years."

As her met her at a Black Pride Week event and other than the age difference there was nothing else unusual about their relationship, I'm sure authorities quickly determined that this section didn't apply.  If there is something inherently immoral about sex with a 16 year old, why isn't the law changed to 18.   I wouldn't argue with that.  Harper had a struggle to get it raised to 16 from 14.  And why the hell can someone legally have sexual relations with a 12 year old under the Criminal Code?

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« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2017, 10:25:25 »
He is at the very least, a married man and not to the female in question.  That, isn't very moral.

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« Reply #54 on: May 20, 2017, 10:44:28 »
When did priests, pastors and assorted clergymen started acting morally?

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« Reply #55 on: May 20, 2017, 12:15:19 »
He is at the very least, a married man and not to the female in question.  That, isn't very moral.

I hadn't heard that all the members of the Senate had been questioned on marital fidelity.  If odds mean anything, around half would flunk the test.

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« Reply #56 on: May 20, 2017, 13:06:05 »
I hadn't heard that all the members of the Senate had been questioned on marital fidelity.  If odds mean anything, around half would flunk the test.
You suggested his only immoral act was banging a teen.  I countered with another view on morals and transgressions.  I'm quite sure if the woodpile was closely examined, this human failing would be observed in others besides Pastor Chickenhawk.  i also imagine that many folks either agree with his actions or don't give a crap one way or another.  I'm just not one of them.  And for sake of argument lets not confuse illegal with immoral.
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